Quagland wrote:Now the official White House account posted the exact same thing. I just reported it.

Our country is so disgusting.

Can we just make sure that the looters and rioters are wearing masks and staying 6 feet apart while they were destroying a beautiful city? That’s truly what’s important here

The Savior wrote:

joe table wrote:There’s not really a scenario where Biden ends up losing to trump but Bernie would have beaten trump (had he been the nominee). There is a scenario where both Bernie (as potential nominee) and Biden both beat trump. Biden will likely lose though anyway barring a bad second wave in fall. All IMO

For a guy that has never won, people are so consistently sure he would’ve won just about every election. It’s quite amazing.

Perhaps Bernie just isn’t liked across the totality of the party? Like me?

Also in Pennsylvania, national Democrats suffered a setback in a case in the state. More from Lai: “The President Judge of the Pennsylvania Commonwealth Court denied a preliminary injunction request to allow mail ballots to be counted if they are postmarked by election day and received within seven days. That case, which was brought by the Pennsylvania Alliance for Retired Americans and funded by the Democratic super PAC Priorities USA, remains open, but the court said it did not have jurisdiction to grant the request.”

“They ask the Bucks County Court of Common Pleas to set a new deadline of between two and seven days after the election and allow ballots received by that time to be counted if they are postmarked by election day.”

Augustus wrote:Do people not remember 2016? Hillary was supposed to be putting Texas, Georgia, and Arizona in play.

Biden is not as unpopular as Hillary, but he's still underwater in favorable/unfavorable. Trump is more popular now then he was then. The shy Trump effect in polling is probably even bigger this time, because there's a lot of white people who claim they would have voted for Biden in 2016 but actually love Trump.

Not saying I think he's guaranteed a win, but he's got to be the favorite right now.

pacino wrote:it's going to be a very tight election

and if Trump loses, will he actually transfer power?

The blowback couldn’t have been a complete surprise for Lindell. As an early supporter of the president he’s faced backlash since 2016. He’s now more than just a friend of Trump’s: he’s a donor, a rally opening act, and the recently named Minnesota chairman to the 2020 reelection campaign. As for his own political future, Lindell denies reports that Trump has been egging him on to run for governor in 2022, but admits he’s giving the idea serious consideration.
“It’s sure steering me in that direction, to run,” he said about the coronavirus pandemic. “I believe that things could be done a lot better . . . and I’m beginning to think I’m the guy to do that.”

PSUsarge wrote:

Augustus wrote:Do people not remember 2016? Hillary was supposed to be putting Texas, Georgia, and Arizona in play.

Biden is not as unpopular as Hillary, but he's still underwater in favorable/unfavorable. Trump is more popular now then he was then. The shy Trump effect in polling is probably even bigger this time, because there's a lot of white people who claim they would have voted for Biden in 2016 but actually love Trump.

Not saying I think he's guaranteed a win, but he's got to be the favorite right now.

Have posted this a few times here but in 2016 there was a very real dismissal of the very fact that Donald Trump could become the President of the United States. His entire candidacy felt like a "ha, this is funny, but there's no way..." until, well, it happened.

I think this caused enough of people to either stay home - "eh Hillary's going to win, Trump can't be President" - or leave the Presidential vote blank when voting - "I hate them both" - which was basically a vote for Trump.

Now it's "Donald Trump is President unless you vote him out" - I think this urgency will light a fire under, well, everyone but his own base.

heyeaglefn wrote:

PSUsarge wrote:

Augustus wrote:Do people not remember 2016? Hillary was supposed to be putting Texas, Georgia, and Arizona in play.

Biden is not as unpopular as Hillary, but he's still underwater in favorable/unfavorable. Trump is more popular now then he was then. The shy Trump effect in polling is probably even bigger this time, because there's a lot of white people who claim they would have voted for Biden in 2016 but actually love Trump.

Not saying I think he's guaranteed a win, but he's got to be the favorite right now.

Have posted this a few times here but in 2016 there was a very real dismissal of the very fact that Donald Trump could become the President of the United States. His entire candidacy felt like a "ha, this is funny, but there's no way..." until, well, it happened.

I think this caused enough of people to either stay home - "eh Hillary's going to win, Trump can't be President" - or leave the Presidential vote blank when voting - "I hate them both" - which was basically a vote for Trump.

Now it's "Donald Trump is President unless you vote him out" - I think this urgency will light a fire under, well, everyone but his own base.

I hope so, but I thought there would be an urgency for people to get out and vote for Bernie or Warren over someone like Biden, and that didn't happen. Hopefully the Democrats that don't love Biden will still hate Trump enough to come out and vote, but I have my doubts.

Trump is still a slight betting favorite over Biden at this point.

06hawkalum wrote:

heyeaglefn wrote:

PSUsarge wrote:

Augustus wrote:Do people not remember 2016? Hillary was supposed to be putting Texas, Georgia, and Arizona in play.

Biden is not as unpopular as Hillary, but he's still underwater in favorable/unfavorable. Trump is more popular now then he was then. The shy Trump effect in polling is probably even bigger this time, because there's a lot of white people who claim they would have voted for Biden in 2016 but actually love Trump.

Not saying I think he's guaranteed a win, but he's got to be the favorite right now.

Have posted this a few times here but in 2016 there was a very real dismissal of the very fact that Donald Trump could become the President of the United States. His entire candidacy felt like a "ha, this is funny, but there's no way..." until, well, it happened.

I think this caused enough of people to either stay home - "eh Hillary's going to win, Trump can't be President" - or leave the Presidential vote blank when voting - "I hate them both" - which was basically a vote for Trump.

Now it's "Donald Trump is President unless you vote him out" - I think this urgency will light a fire under, well, everyone but his own base.

I hope so, but I thought there would be an urgency for people to get out and vote for Bernie or Warren over someone like Biden, and that didn't happen. Hopefully the Democrats that don't love Biden will still hate Trump enough to come out and vote, but I have my doubts.

Trump is still a slight betting favorite over Biden at this point.

By Vegas odds...yes. Based on his net disapproval and swing state polls...no.

azrider wrote:protests, bad for trump. riots, bad for biden.

The Sarge wrote:The President just held an event where he only spoke about the WHO and China. He did not address Minneapolis. Great Leadership!

The Sarge wrote:The President just held an event where he only spoke about the WHO and China. He did not address Minneapolis. Great Leadership!