Gimpy wrote:I hang out on pretty left-leaning areas of the internet. Aside from people thinking that Trump is more likely to beat a more centrist candidate (which I don’t really agree with), I haven’t seen many people saying they won’t vote for Biden. Most progressives I see and communicate with are definitely voting Biden and encouraging others to vote Biden.

I’ve seen way more centrist democrats whining about potentially not getting votes from Bernie supporters than Bernie supporters saying they wouldn’t vote Biden. Anecdotal, I know, so I’m not sure how valuable that is to everyone.

I guess. I've seen plenty of threads likethis one and very few protestations from Biden supporters (in fact I got very few Biden supporters at all on my feed ever). Could just be who I follow, which is in fact very few people and a lot of institutions, and maybe they tend to follow people at the extremes more to get a feeling for the zeitgeist. I dunno.

At any rate, it's twitter where patience is definitely not regarded as a virtue, but if everyone would chill for a bit they'd probably end up a little happier. Biden will no longer have to set himself up as the pragmatic, moderate alternative to Sanders, and whole he'll still remain pragmatic and moderate that allows him to incorporate more left-leaning aspects of the Democratic platform. And if Biden supporters would give Sanders backers a little time to go ahead and feel bad and disillusioned that their by far first choice once again lost out, they may take the time t discover Biden isn't just a senile rapist and may actually move things slightly in the right direction. None of that is going to happen tomorrow though. Silly to even think you can make the hard core Sanders supporters vote for Biden by making them feel bad. You can hope they at least won't work actively against him, though.

JFLNYC wrote:

joe table wrote:Didn’t state it explicitly but exec branch definitely recommending a 5/1 open for most of US based on that presser. It’ll be governors (and non-executive branch health pros) vs executive for be foreseeable future. We’ve become Brazil

Because we’re swimming in #$!&@?

I meant in this respect. Except Trump is too chicken shit to go around shaking hands (and bolsonaro knew he already had it so wasn’t worried about dapping up Brazil rednecks)

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/featu ... 45501.html

swishnicholson wrote:

Gimpy wrote:I hang out on pretty left-leaning areas of the internet. Aside from people thinking that Trump is more likely to beat a more centrist candidate (which I don’t really agree with), I haven’t seen many people saying they won’t vote for Biden. Most progressives I see and communicate with are definitely voting Biden and encouraging others to vote Biden.

I’ve seen way more centrist democrats whining about potentially not getting votes from Bernie supporters than Bernie supporters saying they wouldn’t vote Biden. Anecdotal, I know, so I’m not sure how valuable that is to everyone.

I guess. I've seen plenty of threads likethis one and very few protestations from Biden supporters (in fact I got very few Biden supporters at all on my feed ever). Could just be who I follow, which is in fact very few people and a lot of institutions, and maybe they tend to follow people at the extremes more to get a feeling for the zeitgeist. I dunno.

At any rate, it's twitter where patience is definitely not regarded as a virtue, but if everyone would chill for a bit they'd probably end up a little happier. Biden will no longer have to set himself up as the pragmatic, moderate alternative to Sanders, and whole he'll still remain pragmatic and moderate that allows him to incorporate more left-leaning aspects of the Democratic platform. And if Biden supporters would give Sanders backers a little time to go ahead and feel bad and disillusioned that their by far first choice once again lost out, they may take the time t discover Biden isn't just a senile rapist and may actually move things slightly in the right direction. None of that is going to happen tomorrow though. Silly to even think you can make the hard core Sanders supporters vote for Biden by making them feel bad. You can hope they at least won't work actively against him, though.

Kyle Kulinski who grew up in one of the wealthiest counties in the country and went to a public high school where nearly everyone goes on to college, including him attending one that costs about 40k a year.

He also uses his father's death as a push for M4A. It's gross. His dad went to a chiropractor for a year before going to an actual doctor. Smoked heavily. Had lung cancer and did not trusts doctors. Not sure m4a would have saved him, Kyle.

It's a scam to line his own pockets.

I like the first reply to that tweet

@Liz_SouthAfrica
Biden is not my candidate. My candidate was knocked out, as was my second choice. However I have a brain and a heart, and I don't want to see more years of kids in cages and other reprehensible policies that are moving our world backwards with each day. So I'll support Biden.

I wonder if Warren is getting a real look as VP. Her team has said that they're letting Biden's team coordinate the official endorsement, which is why it has not happened yet.

Warren should not be on his list.

Kamela or Amy

Thanks @Liz_SouthAfrica

Due to Biden's age this may be the most important VP pick ever.

Harris and Klobuchar blow

worry about picking a klobuchar and having a tough time winning back that seat in 2022.

swishnicholson wrote:

Gimpy wrote:I hang out on pretty left-leaning areas of the internet. Aside from people thinking that Trump is more likely to beat a more centrist candidate (which I don’t really agree with), I haven’t seen many people saying they won’t vote for Biden. Most progressives I see and communicate with are definitely voting Biden and encouraging others to vote Biden.

I’ve seen way more centrist democrats whining about potentially not getting votes from Bernie supporters than Bernie supporters saying they wouldn’t vote Biden. Anecdotal, I know, so I’m not sure how valuable that is to everyone.

I guess. I've seen plenty of threads likethis one and very few protestations from Biden supporters (in fact I got very few Biden supporters at all on my feed ever). Could just be who I follow, which is in fact very few people and a lot of institutions, and maybe they tend to follow people at the extremes more to get a feeling for the zeitgeist. I dunno.

At any rate, it's twitter where patience is definitely not regarded as a virtue, but if everyone would chill for a bit they'd probably end up a little happier. Biden will no longer have to set himself up as the pragmatic, moderate alternative to Sanders, and whole he'll still remain pragmatic and moderate that allows him to incorporate more left-leaning aspects of the Democratic platform. And if Biden supporters would give Sanders backers a little time to go ahead and feel bad and disillusioned that their by far first choice once again lost out, they may take the time t discover Biden isn't just a senile rapist and may actually move things slightly in the right direction. None of that is going to happen tomorrow though. Silly to even think you can make the hard core Sanders supporters vote for Biden by making them feel bad. You can hope they at least won't work actively against him, though.

I feel like the horse race nature of coverage has sort of obscured how non-competitive Bernie was once the other candidates dropped out? This isn't like 2016 when he had random upsets like Michigan and other unexpected strong performances. He lost virtually every swing state by double digits. By the end he was losing Florida by 40 and Wisconsin by 30.

I really think Biden is going to end up leaning into the rust belt/midwestern stuff that worked in 2012 over trying very hard to rope in Bernie or bust people. By every result we are seeing there just aren't that many of them and it's inflated by twitter. The most resonant message of this cycle appears to be that Trump is bad and he has to be removed, not that we need some sort of upheaval of the system on top of that.

In reference to the above, I don’t go on twitter since it’s mostly bots and trolls. I don’t think any crazy shit from twitter is representative of any group.

if anyone wants to watch the PA House today-- wont be back until 1 pm however.

https://www.house.state.pa.us/Video/HouseVideo.cfm

CalvinBall wrote:if anyone wants to watch the PA House today-- wont be back until 1 pm however.

https://www.house.state.pa.us/Video/HouseVideo.cfm

In case this seems like a desirable option, help is available: 1-800-273-8255

Gimpy wrote:Harris and Klobuchar blow

I don’t love Harris but people with money do. And right now Biden needs money. Trump sitting on hundreds of millions.

Need Bloomberg and his types to throw money into the campaign and soon.

The Savior wrote:

Gimpy wrote:Harris and Klobuchar blow

I don’t love Harris but people with money do. And right now Biden needs money. Trump sitting on hundreds of millions.

She'd also bolster the Obama coalition. I know that's already a strength for Biden, but could still see more upside there than anything Klobuchar offers.

I really like Warren but am not sure whether energizing progressives outweighs the (pathetic) negative reactions people have to her.

thephan wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:if anyone wants to watch the PA House today-- wont be back until 1 pm however.

https://www.house.state.pa.us/Video/HouseVideo.cfm

In case this seems like a desirable option, help is available: 1-800-273-8255

Looks like it will be bad if the appropriation meeting was a preview. Rs just going to slam every bill they can through forcing people to choose between their lives or job.

Obama to endorse Biden today.

Of the rumored candidates for VP, Klobuchar would very easily be the least-inspiring choice.