Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby thephan » Sun Apr 12, 2020 21:44:21

Jedediah Bila, weekend co-host of Fox & Friends:

"Enough with the 3rd grade name-calling. Chris is doing his job. The news should not be any president's friend, ally, or buddy. If it bothered you when Obama complained about Fox News, but you're silent on this complete nonsense, then just stop," she tweeted Sunday afternoon. "Seriously. Enough."
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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby swishnicholson » Sun Apr 12, 2020 22:37:24

Uncle Milty wrote:Highlights or conclusion from the examination for those who can't access NYT?


Take your pick ( and people have): 1. Unnamed friends were told at the time or at least a long time prior to this of the allegation , and Biden has admitted to behavior that made other women uncomfortable. 2. No one who worked in the office at the time has any confirmation that anything happened, nor can any record of a complaint with the Senate (as Ms. Reade contends she did) be found. The other allegations consist of Biden encroaching on personal space in a way that made the women uncomfortable, but no one has come forward with anything near the magnitude of what Reade alleges.

Her duties were sharply reduced shortly after the alleged incident and a few month later she was given a month to find another job by Biden's Chief of Staff, Ted Kaufman (according to her account). Which can be read as 1. revenge for not cooperating with Biden's sexual demands or 2. a suggestion of an embittered employee who welcomed the chance to sabotage Biden's campaign.

The former aide, Tara Reade, who briefly worked as a staff assistant in Mr. Biden’s Senate office, told The New York Times that in 1993, Mr. Biden pinned her to a wall in a Senate building, reached under her clothing and penetrated her with his fingers. A friend said that Ms. Reade told her the details of the allegation at the time. Another friend and a brother of Ms. Reade’s said she told them over the years about a traumatic sexual incident involving Mr. Biden.

A spokeswoman for Mr. Biden said the allegation was false. In interviews, several people who worked in the Senate office with Ms. Reade said they did not recall any talk of such an incident or similar behavior by Mr. Biden toward her or any women. Two office interns who worked directly with Ms. Reade said they were unaware of the allegation or any treatment that troubled her.



No other allegation about sexual assault surfaced in the course of reporting, nor did any former Biden staff members corroborate any details of Ms. Reade’s allegation. The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden.


The seven other women who had complained about Mr. Biden told the Times this month that they did not have any new information about their experiences to add, but several said they believed Ms. Reade’s account.

Last year, Mr. Biden, 77, acknowledged the women’s complaints about his conduct, saying his intentions were benign and promising to be “more mindful and respectful of people’s personal space.”


In an interview, Mr. Kaufman, a longtime friend of Mr. Biden’s who was his chief of staff at the time, said: “I did not know her. She did not come to me. If she had, I would have remembered her.”

Mr. Toner, who worked for Mr. Biden for over three decades, said the allegation was out of character for Mr. Biden. Other senators and office staffs had reputations for harassing women at work and partying after hours, according to those who worked in the office at the time. Mr. Biden was known for racing to catch the train to get home to Wilmington, Del., every night.

“It’s just so preposterous that Senator Biden would be faced with these allegations,” said Mr. Toner, who was deputy chief of staff when Ms. Reade worked in the office. “I don’t remember her. I don’t remember this conversation. And I would remember this conversation.”

The Biden campaign issued a statement from Ms. Baker, Mr. Biden’s executive assistant from 1982 to 2000.


“I never once witnessed, or heard of, or received, any reports of inappropriate conduct, period — not from Ms. Reade, not from anyone,” she said. “I have absolutely no knowledge or memory of Ms. Reade’s accounting of events, which would have left a searing impression on me as a woman professional, and as a manager.”


A friend said that Ms. Reade told her about the alleged assault at the time, in 1993. A second friend recalled Ms. Reade telling her in 2008 that Mr. Biden had touched her inappropriately and that she’d had a traumatic experience while working in his office. Both friends agreed to speak to The Times on the condition of anonymity to protect the privacy of their families and their self-owned businesses.

Ms. Reade said she also told her brother, who has confirmed parts of her account publicly but who did not speak to The Times, and her mother, who has since died.


Ms. Reade said she did not disclose the sexual assault allegation last year when she spoke out because she was scared. After her initial complaints were reported last year by a local California newspaper, Ms. Reade said she faced a wave of criticism and death threats, as well as accusations that she was a Russian agent because of Medium posts and tweets, several of which are now deleted, she had written praising President Vladimir Putin.

Ms. Reade said that she was not working for Russia and did not support Mr. Putin, and that her comments were pulled out of context from a novel she was writing at the time.

“It was trying to smear me and distract from what happened, but it won’t change the facts of what happened in 1993,” she said.

She called her praise for Mr. Putin “misguided.”
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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby Uncle Milty » Sun Apr 12, 2020 23:05:25

Thanks. Seems maybe a bit less dismissive than others I read. I don't remember the brother commenting in any of the others. Also don't remember anyone recalling the allegation at the time of the incident.

Any mention of her fervent Sanders support?
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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby Uncle Milty » Sun Apr 12, 2020 23:26:08

Almost time to pour one out for Fauci

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Fauci is now saying that had Trump listened to the medical experts earlier he could've saved more lives.

Fauci was telling people on February 29th that there was nothing to worry about and it posed no threat to the US public at large.

Time to #FireFauci...
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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby The B1G Piece » Sun Apr 12, 2020 23:46:36

I don’t know what’s more embarrassing, the blatant lie or using OAN as your source?

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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby thephan » Mon Apr 13, 2020 07:18:17

Come on she cited her sources. After all there is a link to a video about how the Democrat cabal has trained the deep state for 40 years for this moment (like a bandaid that video call be stuck to anything)
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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby lethal » Mon Apr 13, 2020 08:35:22

Uncle Milty wrote:Almost time to pour one out for Fauci

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Fauci is now saying that had Trump listened to the medical experts earlier he could've saved more lives.

Fauci was telling people on February 29th that there was nothing to worry about and it posed no threat to the US public at large.

Time to #FireFauci...


I've seen that a lot, but I can't find any source for it. Am I just missing it?

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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby Grotewold » Mon Apr 13, 2020 08:39:30

I don't believe in the concept of an anti-Christ, but man Trump makes a strong claim

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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby Uncle Milty » Mon Apr 13, 2020 08:52:18

lethal wrote:I've seen that a lot, but I can't find any source for it. Am I just missing it?

I think it all started with DJT retweeting that anti-Fauci tweet which contained the phrase "time to fire Fauci"

I verified that retweet myself. I can't say if there's more than that one - can't force myself to read his whole feed.

I kinda think firing Fauci is inevitable at some point. Probably when Trump "opens up the country" earlier than Fauci recommends and Fauci goes public to prompt lower levels to action/inaction.
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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby The Dude » Mon Apr 13, 2020 08:54:31

He must have deleted it
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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby Uncle Milty » Mon Apr 13, 2020 09:03:32

The Dude wrote:He must have deleted it

On quick glance it appears he did.
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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby traderdave » Mon Apr 13, 2020 09:27:32

lethal wrote:
Uncle Milty wrote:Almost time to pour one out for Fauci

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Fauci is now saying that had Trump listened to the medical experts earlier he could've saved more lives.

Fauci was telling people on February 29th that there was nothing to worry about and it posed no threat to the US public at large.

Time to #FireFauci...


I've seen that a lot, but I can't find any source for it. Am I just missing it?


People bringing this up are referring to a radio interview Dr. Fauci did with John Catsimatidis back on January 26, 2020. People should listen to the entire interview though, not just pick out lines that support their position.

JC: "What do you tell the American people about what's going on? Should they be scared?"

Fauci: "I don't think so. The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. Its a very, very low risk to the United States. But its something that we, as public health officials, need to take very seriously".

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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby lethal » Mon Apr 13, 2020 09:28:01

Uncle Milty wrote:
lethal wrote:I've seen that a lot, but I can't find any source for it. Am I just missing it?

I think it all started with DJT retweeting that anti-Fauci tweet which contained the phrase "time to fire Fauci"

I verified that retweet myself. I can't say if there's more than that one - can't force myself to read his whole feed.

I kinda think firing Fauci is inevitable at some point. Probably when Trump "opens up the country" earlier than Fauci recommends and Fauci goes public to prompt lower levels to action/inaction.


No, I saw it last week too. On here or some other message board. Let me see if I can find that at least.

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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby stevemc » Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:06:03

I feel like firing Fauci will be the last straw for some Trump fence straddlers. Then again, there probably aren't that many of them. It may simply help those who have softened their stance on him during the pandemic to double down on voting him out.

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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby Slowhand » Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:12:15

stevemc wrote:I feel like firing Fauci will be the last straw for some Trump fence straddlers. Then again, there probably aren't that many of them. It may simply help those who have softened their stance on him during the pandemic to double down on voting him out.


I would like to believe that, but I feel like there's been about 1000 last straws already.
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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby The Sarge » Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:13:03

Fauci will be gone as soon as it is politically feasible for Trump to do so. He's already laying the groundwork to hurt Fauci's credibility/ popularity. Once he feels it's low enough, he'll be gone, Kushner will be in charge of infectious diseases and Susan Collins will be very disappointed.
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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby The Dude » Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:13:25

Yeah, and I find it hard to believe there are a significant amount of people that are on the fence about Trump. If there are I doubt Fauci would be the tipping point for them
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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby momadance » Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:55:54

LOL ... NOW he wants to be a leader!

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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby swishnicholson » Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:14:37

Uncle Milty wrote:Thanks. Seems maybe a bit less dismissive than others I read. I don't remember the brother commenting in any of the others. Also don't remember anyone recalling the allegation at the time of the incident.

Any mention of her fervent Sanders support?


it's mentioned, but along with her denial that it had anything to do with the timing or substance of her accusation.

Ms. Reade made her new allegation public as Mr. Biden was closing in on the Democratic presidential nomination after winning a string of primaries against his chief rival, Senator Bernie Sanders. Ms. Reade, who describes herself as a “third-generation Democrat,” said she originally favored Marianne Williamson and Senator Elizabeth Warren in the race but voted for Mr. Sanders in the California primary last month. She said her decision to come forward had nothing to do with politics or helping Mr. Sanders, and said neither his campaign nor the Trump campaign had encouraged her to make her allegation...

During her time in Mr. Biden’s office, he was working to pass the Violence Against Women Act, which Mr. Biden has described as his “proudest legislative accomplishment.” In 2017, Ms. Reade retweeted praise for Mr. Biden and his work combating sexual assault. In more recent months, her feed has featured support for Mr. Sanders and criticism of Mr. Biden.
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Re: Bernie Busted, Biden Ridin', Trump Lyin' Politics

Postby traderdave » Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:32:58

momadance wrote:LOL ... NOW he wants to be a leader!

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