Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby Werthless » Fri Mar 06, 2020 08:37:19

swishnicholson wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:https://twitter.com/MichaelSalfino/status/1235790054984990721

MSNBC brings America its wisdom

Brian Williams is so useless and dumb

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status ... 9734269952 - fuller clip. That's actually worse. Less on Williams than the guest, though Williams is also generally terrible.


Math is hard.

The original poster's tweets are (now?) protected, but I give her credit for adding, "I know, I'm bad at math" to her profile. I'd respect Williams more if he'd do the same.

There must have been a half dozen people involved with the show who saw the graphic before they went live. Producer, graphics guy, host, etc. So bad.

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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:28:18

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) called out Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) for not taking steps to control the “organized nastiness” of some of his supporters during the presidential campaign.
“It’s not just about me,” Warren said in an interview with MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow on Thursday following her decision to suspend her campaign for the Democratic nomination. “I think that’s a real problem with this online bullying and sort of organized nastiness. … I’m talking about some really ugly stuff that went on.”
While politics has become riddled with such behavior, she said it was a particular problem with Sanders’s supporters. “It is. It just is,” she told Maddow.


She described how his supporters referred to her using a snake emoji and called her a “traitor.”
Sanders has denounced the attacks on Warren and her campaign by those claiming to support him, saying he was “aghast” and “disgusted” by them.
That apparently did not satisfy Warren, who said that Sanders and all candidates “are responsible for the people who claim to be” supporters “and do really threatening and dangerous things,”


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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby MoBettle » Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:36:37

They're crazy people on the internet what does she want him to do
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:40:09

Report them to Melania.
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:40:15

I do think the Chapo Traphouse guys are horrific. Bernie or bust is a dangerous thing to push when you're well off white guys.

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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby slugsrbad » Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:43:06

MoBettle wrote:They're crazy people on the internet what does she want him to do


More than the bare minimum? Remember on the stage in Vegas when confronted he said:

“All of us remember 2016, and what we remember is efforts by Russians and others to try to interfere in our elections and divide us up,” said the senator from Vermont. “I’m not saying that’s happening, but it would not shock me.”


It is sad that the online Rose twitter (whether Russian or home grown) is hurting Bernie. He has such smart surrogates that can get drowned out by the masses.

Edit: I’ll leave my broad brush for posterity instead of covering it up. Not all of Rose twitter is bad. There are actual smart, kind people on twitter who identify as Democratic Socialist. It’s just easier to see the trend in bad replies when there is an icon in the name.
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby MoBettle » Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:49:29

He said he was aghast and disgusted by them according to that article? I don't really get what his responsibility is/what he could actually do about it.
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby slugsrbad » Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:12:59

https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pol ... ate-seats/

It is early, but hope springs eternal.
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby traderdave » Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:55:11

slugsrbad wrote:https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/polls/democrats-lead-by-at-least-4-in-4-gop-held-senate-seats/

It is early, but hope springs eternal.


If they held up, those would be incredible results.

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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby td11 » Fri Mar 06, 2020 13:14:56

Trump just tweeted "I will protect your Social Security and Medicare, just as I have for the past 3 years. Sleepy Joe Biden will destroy both in very short order, and he won’t even know he’s doing it!"

Republicans of course have no plan on healthcare, other than just let the companies do whatever they want, much less a plan that covers 100% of americans, so they will lie and position themselves to the left of biden and in line w/ Bernie on this. It's the #1 issue for many americans so it would be a really shame if Dems allow them to get away with this messaging. This is something it should be very easy to hammer him on but it's the dems so who knows
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby Gimpy » Fri Mar 06, 2020 13:49:05

Video of a white supremacist unfurling a nazi flag at a Bernie rally. Apparently there were a couple more that got ripped away and torn up before they could be displayed.

https://mobile.twitter.com/_sjpeace_/st ... 5725162498

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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby slugsrbad » Fri Mar 06, 2020 14:07:32

New Morning Consult poll has Biden +16.
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Mar 06, 2020 14:18:43

slugsrbad wrote:New Morning Consult poll has Biden +16.



for what? Against whom? I googled your post and found nothing except old polls.
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby slugsrbad » Fri Mar 06, 2020 14:24:17

Monkeyboy wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:New Morning Consult poll has Biden +16.



for what? Against whom? I googled your post and found nothing except old polls.


https://morningconsult.com/2020/03/06/d ... e-sanders/

Be a better psychic or googler.
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Mar 06, 2020 15:03:49

slugsrbad wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:New Morning Consult poll has Biden +16.



for what? Against whom? I googled your post and found nothing except old polls.


https://morningconsult.com/2020/03/06/d ... e-sanders/

Be a better psychic or googler.



It was partially because I'm at my inlaws and their internet is terrible. I was waiting a minute for each page to open. It's running better now. I think my wife was also using the wifi
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby traderdave » Fri Mar 06, 2020 16:06:52

Kudlow also said "America should stay at work," arguing that the private sector is "going to solve this disease" and again reiterating, "I will still argue to you that this is contained. It can't be airtight, but ... in a relative sense, relative to our population, relative to ordinary flus ... I think it is relatively contained."

Its 100% propaganda 100% of the time with these people.

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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby Grotewold » Fri Mar 06, 2020 16:23:34

and has been for 40 years

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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby momadance » Fri Mar 06, 2020 16:27:35

President Trump’s re-election campaign filed a libel lawsuit against CNN on Friday for publishing “false and defamatory” statements about seeking Russia’s help in the 2020 election.

"The complaint alleges CNN was aware of the falsity at the time it published them but did so for the intentional purpose of hurting the campaign while misleading its own readers in the process... the campaign filed this lawsuit against CNN and the preceding suits against The New York Times and The Washington Post to hold the publishers accountable for their reckless false reporting and also to establish the truth,” Senior Legal Adviser to Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. Jenna Ellis told Fox News.

The complaint said that CNN was well aware the statements were false “because there was an extensive record of statements from the Campaign and the administration expressly disavowing any intention to seek Russian assistance” but promoted the claim anyway.


It's not true because we said it wasn't lol.

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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby philliesphhan » Fri Mar 06, 2020 16:39:37

Your Honor,

You'll note I quite clearly say "I am NOT robbing this bank"
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby TomatoPie » Fri Mar 06, 2020 16:48:50

Monkeyboy wrote:
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As for drugs, most of the worlds drugs are researched and manufactured in Europe, the land of social democrats.


I'd be interested in supporting evidence for that.

Meanwhile: https://www.brookings.edu/research/the- ... nnovation/


Here are the top drug exporting countries. The top 4 and 8 of the top 10 are in Europe.

http://www.worldstopexports.com/drugs-m ... s-country/

I know the US has almost half of the world's drug market, so they do spend a ton of money on R&D, but I also remember that Switzerland and Sweden are among the most innovative with this stuff. I remember reading about it 5 years or so ago. Switzerland was ranked #1 in innovation in the report I saw. And Sweden is up there. Anyway, my point was that it's not just the US driving innovation. We innovate because we spend money on it and we spend money on it because we use a lot of drugs, like A LOT of drugs. And Switzerland and Sweden spend money on it because they like selling drugs to us.


Good find there, but it does not resolve the stats in question.

Those 4 Euro countries export more than the US, but as you note, American use the most drugs. I don't have stats but I suspect that of all the drugs consumed in the US, much of the brand name stuff is made here and the generic stuff made in India, the Caribbean, and other places.

Despite the good stats on drug exporting, the biggest question is the research. And, for the important research being done, even in Switzinavia, what dollars are supporting/driving that research?
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