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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby TomatoPie » Thu Mar 05, 2020 18:34:02

Werthless wrote:I have yet to see a Republican proposal that includes Universal health insurance availability. It doesn't have to be single-payer, obviously. What I have seen is Republicans rejecting the Medicaid expansion because a bunch of uncovered people is not viewed as a problem worth solving.


Goes without saying that the racists/fascists/nativists/morons masquerading as Republicans in 2020 have no good plans or ideas.

Obamacare is better. M4A is better. Cuba is better. So yeah, Bernie >Trump.

But none of it is optimum or remotely in keeping with fundamental conservative principles. I can't be for Bernie over Biden, Pete, Amy, Booker, etc because he is further from the center. I'm only for Bernie if he is running against Trump.
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Mar 05, 2020 19:37:08

Trump doing a Fox News town hall tonight. Will be filmed in Scranton. O/u at 6 on the number of wtf things he says.

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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby joe table » Thu Mar 05, 2020 19:46:51

Way way over unless the program is 2 mins

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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby Bucky » Thu Mar 05, 2020 19:59:08

joe table wrote:Way way over unless the program is 2 seconds

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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Mar 05, 2020 20:43:46

Man Fox news is insane. It's pure propaganda. Hard to watch.

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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby thephan » Thu Mar 05, 2020 20:52:27

CalvinBall wrote:Trump doing a Fox News town hall tonight. Will be filmed in Scranton. O/u at 6 on the number of wtf things he says.


I think he racks +25 flat out made up bullshit.

FWIW, dude is never @ work.
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby The Savior » Thu Mar 05, 2020 21:05:42

This town hall is what trump will do instead of a debate. Guarantee it.
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby Bucky » Thu Mar 05, 2020 21:17:12

biden= he'll debate / bernie = he won't debate

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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby Uncle Milty » Thu Mar 05, 2020 21:22:40

slugsrbad wrote:
Uncle Milty wrote:The thing that sank her campaign is being Elizabeth Warren.


Yes. If she was Chuck Warren she’d be the front runner.

Not if Chuck retained Elizabeth's personality
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby 06hawkalum » Thu Mar 05, 2020 21:43:33

This is...reassuring?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... minee.html
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Mar 05, 2020 21:49:24

Yeah. Sanders needs to be way better on that this time around when he loses. So that's a good sign.

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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Mar 05, 2020 21:55:36

Maybe werthless mentioned this, but in my mind the worst thing about the republican party is how their electoral strategy is based on voter suppression.
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 05, 2020 23:42:33

Uncle Milty wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:
Uncle Milty wrote:The thing that sank her campaign is being Elizabeth Warren.


Yes. If she was Chuck Warren she’d be the front runner.

Not if Chuck retained Elizabeth's personality

Yeesh
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 05, 2020 23:43:21

06hawkalum wrote:This is...reassuring?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... minee.html

I mean he said that weeks ago. He was the only person to say it. I'd ask Biden if he believes that's how it should be.
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby pacino » Thu Mar 05, 2020 23:45:58

CalvinBall wrote:Biden May Be Saving the Democrats

I will give you my HOF spot if you can guess who wrote this article without clicking the link.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-may-be-saving-the-democrats-11583343952?mod=e2tw

Bad faith for 1000, Alex
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Mar 06, 2020 00:34:26

TomatoPie wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:
As for drugs, most of the worlds drugs are researched and manufactured in Europe, the land of social democrats.


I'd be interested in supporting evidence for that.

Meanwhile: https://www.brookings.edu/research/the- ... nnovation/


Here are the top drug exporting countries. The top 4 and 8 of the top 10 are in Europe.

http://www.worldstopexports.com/drugs-m ... s-country/

I know the US has almost half of the world's drug market, so they do spend a ton of money on R&D, but I also remember that Switzerland and Sweden are among the most innovative with this stuff. I remember reading about it 5 years or so ago. Switzerland was ranked #1 in innovation in the report I saw. And Sweden is up there. Anyway, my point was that it's not just the US driving innovation. We innovate because we spend money on it and we spend money on it because we use a lot of drugs, like A LOT of drugs. And Switzerland and Sweden spend money on it because they like selling drugs to us.
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby momadance » Fri Mar 06, 2020 01:15:34

Maddow's interview with Warren tonight was great. The predictable reaction of the Bernie Bros was on point. The cult of Bernie is just as bad as the cult of Trump.
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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Mar 06, 2020 01:18:51

It's so goddamn dumb how slow California counts its votes. And it's not like it has some amazing turnout rates to justify their system.

Everyone else is just about done from Tuesday, and California is at about 60%.

In about as non trolling of a stance as I can take, I think an important part of democratic responsiveness is being able to tell the people who voted relatively quickly after the election what the result was (barring like a 0.1% margin). This seems particularly important in a sequential primary. Obviously the margin is large enough that Bernie has won, but whether he wins by 5% or 10% or 15% has a massive impact on the viability of the entire Democratic campaign. And it's like, eh, maybe we'll know sometime next week.

In the general election, the state where this could be a huge issue is Arizona. Which is obviously run by Republicans, so it's not a partisan thing.

I just don't fucking get setting up or advocating for a system like this. Unless the election is well inside a point, you should be able to know who won it when you're having your morning coffee the next day. Or at least maybe by the time you hit happy hour on Friday?

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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Mar 06, 2020 01:50:34

https://twitter.com/MichaelSalfino/stat ... 4984990721

MSNBC brings America its wisdom

Brian Williams is so useless and dumb

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status ... 9734269952 - fuller clip. That's actually worse. Less on Williams than the guest, though Williams is also generally terrible.

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Re: Politics: Y'all ready for this?

Postby swishnicholson » Fri Mar 06, 2020 02:22:08

jerseyhoya wrote:https://twitter.com/MichaelSalfino/status/1235790054984990721

MSNBC brings America its wisdom

Brian Williams is so useless and dumb

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status ... 9734269952 - fuller clip. That's actually worse. Less on Williams than the guest, though Williams is also generally terrible.


Math is hard.

The original poster's tweets are (now?) protected, but I give her credit for adding, "I know, I'm bad at math" to her profile. I'd respect Williams more if he'd do the same.
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