Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby heyeaglefn » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:37:16

CalvinBall wrote:
JUburton wrote:The trial is ending today.


like 70 percent of the country wanted witnesses. pretty staggering number. i *feel* like that should matter come november, but who knows.

I think people will forget by then, there will be other distractions leading up to it for sure.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby JUburton » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:37:59

Don't worry we'll get witnesses when President Sanders is impeached for writing an executive order a GROSS OVERREACH OF EXECUTIVE POWER.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:39:27

JUburton wrote:Don't worry we'll get witnesses when President Sanders is impeached for writing an executive order a GROSS OVERREACH OF EXECUTIVE POWER.


not if he forgets to wear a flag pin first.

Alan Dershowitz- "It was solely selfish of the President to do this. And that is WHY this is impeachable."

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby CFP » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:43:44

70% of the country wanted witnesses, but which ones? Was Hunter Biden included in that poll? If so, you have your answer on why the number seems high.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:54:02

Claire McCaskil last night on MSNBC was so awful.

"See Senator Collins is really a thinker. She always wanted to have one more witness or ask one more question in committees."

"Lamar saying it was inappropriate is significant. That is an ad right there. Really really important."

Or things to that effect.

She is normalizing/rationalizing the calculated, wreckless actions of these people. Yet, MSNBC is left wing propaganda I am told.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby thephan » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:54:30

Trump administration expected to loosen restrictions on use of landmines

Why?

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:58:47

Did not read the article but I am sure it is because Obama tightened them.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby momadance » Fri Jan 31, 2020 13:03:25

@BresPolitico
New - Trump trial could go into next week, maybe even mid-week. Senators and WH want more time for closing arguments, Iowa caucus on Monday and State of the Union complicating timing. All very fluid right now

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby momadance » Fri Jan 31, 2020 13:05:07

@nytmike
EXCLUSIVE: Bolton book contains new, earlier, allegation of Trump's involvement in pressure campaign. Trump asked Bolton to call Zelensky to ensure he would meet w/Giuliani. Cipollone and Mulvaney were in room. w/@maggieNYT

WASHINGTON — More than two months before he asked Ukraine’s president to investigate his political opponents, President Trump directed John R. Bolton, then his national security adviser, to help with his pressure campaign to extract damaging information on Democrats from Ukrainian officials, according to an unpublished manuscript by Mr. Bolton.

Mr. Trump gave the instruction, Mr. Bolton wrote, during an Oval Office conversation in early May that included the acting White House chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, the president’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani and the White House counsel, Pat A. Cipollone, who is now leading the president’s impeachment defense.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/31/us/p ... raine.html


drip drip drip

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby Werthless » Fri Jan 31, 2020 13:19:55

This impeachment trial is incredible. Just incredible. I literally cannot believe this is the country we live in.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby Bucky » Fri Jan 31, 2020 13:30:15

remember when we used to laugh at rob ford

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby momadance » Fri Jan 31, 2020 13:30:21

Werthless wrote:This impeachment trial is incredible. Just incredible. I literally cannot believe this is the country we live in.


Gonna be fun watching Cipollone now.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby thephan » Fri Jan 31, 2020 13:36:24

CalvinBall wrote:Did not read the article but I am sure it is because Obama tightened them.


Of course Obama made some moves to normalize our forces with the rest of the world addressing a war capability that historically has had lasting, unintended consequences.
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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby Bucky » Fri Jan 31, 2020 13:41:35

so is the consensus amongst senate nazis the same as alexander's- that yep, he did it, but it's not impeachable? if so, what will calling witnesses accomplish??

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby momadance » Fri Jan 31, 2020 13:45:50

Bucky wrote:so is the consensus amongst senate nazis the same as alexander's- that yep, he did it, but it's not impeachable? if so, what will calling witnesses accomplish??


Now you have another problem. A lawyer (Cipollone) ethically cannot represent a client where said counsel with either a witness to or a part of the alleged crime. Not to mention in front of the Chief Justice. He can be disbarred for that.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby swishnicholson » Fri Jan 31, 2020 13:53:07

Trump approval ratings creeping up again. Seems like the only thing that gives him any traction is impeachment hearings, so I'll be happy when they wrap up.
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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby slugsrbad » Fri Jan 31, 2020 14:21:16

Murkowski also going to vote no. So witnesses will fail 51-49 it seems. I’m just shocked they didn’t vote to subpoena Hunter Biden solo.
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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Jan 31, 2020 14:26:53

Murkowski votes not basically because the house is bad at impeachment or something. The hoops these people expect me to jump through to get to their reasoning is insulting. Also, their comms people are bad at their jobs if these are the statements they come up with.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby JUburton » Fri Jan 31, 2020 14:32:30

It doesn't matter. There are no repercussions.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Jan 31, 2020 14:35:11

Portman also said the president was wrong but w/e

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