Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Jan 30, 2020 17:48:29

Bucky wrote:wait that's showing a huge portion of economic liberal/social conservatives? I didn't even know that was a thing


It very much is, but they have no voice. In fact, there really isn't a convenient label. (One American Government textbook I used to use called them "communitarians" but that isn't really correct--communitarianism was a pretty obscure political theory that emerged in the 80s and 90s. Probably the most well known statement was Robert Putnam's Bowling Alone. But it was really about people wanting to live in places like New Hope. Probably that quadrant is now best described as "populist" and lacking any other option, they've latched onto Trump's nationalism. Huckabee's Presidential campaign also tried to go after those voters.

Consider how in Arkansas, a referendum to raise the minimum wage (it's currently $10 an hour, it will go to $11 next year) passed by an overwhelming amount, and though Republicans in the legislator grumble, they haven't really moved to undo it. Other Southern states haven't seen this, because they don't have Arkansas's initiative and referendum.
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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby momadance » Thu Jan 30, 2020 18:31:38

Graham and Cruz want to know why the FBI can investigate trump. His lawyer is now trashing the FBI as his defense. Unreal.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby momadance » Thu Jan 30, 2020 18:32:26

Jay Sekulow is a piece of shit.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Thu Jan 30, 2020 19:06:44

philliesphhan wrote:
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slugsrbad wrote:Bloomberg cannot win against Trump. I can see getting most of Bernie’s support behind Biden eventually, but the Bernie Bros would not accept someone who bought the candidacy. It would be worse than 2016 (I hope I’m wrong).


As a Republican, I disagree. I actually think Bloomberg would have the best chance out of all the Dem candidates of beating Trump. In fact, I believe he's the only that could actually defeat him in the general.


Who even likes Bloomberg?


I like Mike

Is that a thing yet?
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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby momadance » Thu Jan 30, 2020 19:09:38

Omg they're asking questions about Hillary and the Steele Dossier. Of course it's Cruz and Rubio.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby MFP » Thu Jan 30, 2020 19:26:19

momadance wrote:Jay Sekulow is a piece of shit.

He's 1000% the blue-haired lawyer from The Simpsons come to life. Only worse.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby momadance » Thu Jan 30, 2020 19:33:47

MFP wrote:
momadance wrote:Jay Sekulow is a piece of shit.

He's 1000% the blue-haired lawyer from The Simpsons come to life. Only worse.


Troy McClure!

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby momadance » Thu Jan 30, 2020 19:34:14

Philbin shooting down Dershowitz's whole argument from last night. Guessing the rest of the defense team told him to stay the fuck home today.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby momadance » Thu Jan 30, 2020 19:43:40

Mike Braun sounds scared. "If there's a tie vote it's discarded. You move on." ... Later backs it up well maybe you have to check with Roberts lol.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jan 30, 2020 20:30:13

Alexander to decide tonight and will make that decision public

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby momadance » Thu Jan 30, 2020 20:35:16

CalvinBall wrote:Alexander to decide tonight and will make that decision public


He's also the first vote in the rollcall too. At least he won't make us wait.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jan 30, 2020 20:35:56

momadance wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Alexander to decide tonight and will make that decision public


He's also the first vote in the rollcall too. At least he won't make us wait.


Well they'd vote tomorrow

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby momadance » Thu Jan 30, 2020 20:37:11

CalvinBall wrote:
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CalvinBall wrote:Alexander to decide tonight and will make that decision public


He's also the first vote in the rollcall too. At least he won't make us wait.


Well they'd vote tomorrow


Yeah but who knows at what time. There's going to be a bunch of votes tomorrow. Rand Paul will probably hijack half the day about his bullshit question.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby momadance » Thu Jan 30, 2020 21:43:25

Werthless wrote:https://theweek.com/speedreads/892768/senators-break-into-laughter-schiff-points-ironic-difference-between-trumps-legal-defense-doj-arguments


Yeah it was a great moment.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jan 30, 2020 22:20:32

MontCo Dems couldn't endorse a candidate for Daylin Leach's seat. Will be an open primary up there. Delco votes this weekend I believe where the rest of the district covers.

Amanda Cappaletti fell a few bites short on the second ballot to get the 60 percent threshold.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby momadance » Thu Jan 30, 2020 23:20:02

This is over. Alexander and Murkowski are not going to vote for witnesses. That last question by them sealed it.

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Thu Jan 30, 2020 23:28:03

momadance wrote:This is over. Alexander and Murkowski are not going to vote for witnesses. That last question by them sealed it.


There you have it

It was a bad thing
Not impeachable
Trump will learn from his mistakes
Time to move on
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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jan 30, 2020 23:31:36

momadance wrote:This is over. Alexander and Murkowski are not going to vote for witnesses. That last question by them sealed it.


I missed it. What did it say?

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Re: Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

Postby momadance » Thu Jan 30, 2020 23:40:17

CalvinBall wrote:
momadance wrote:This is over. Alexander and Murkowski are not going to vote for witnesses. That last question by them sealed it.


I missed it. What did it say?


Pretty much asked the defense if Bolton's testimony would really matter. The answer was, of course, no because what the president did isn't impeachable.

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