JFLNYC wrote:I’d guess tax/charity stuff will be of even less consequence to Republican Senators and their constituents. If asking another country to interfere in our election isn’t enough to sway them, I doubt the fact that Trump is a tax and charity cheat will be. Pretty sure that stuff, along with so much else about his lowlife tendencies, is already baked in.

Squire wrote:To do the tax stuff I think will REALLY drag it into 2020. Even if they got that stuff tomorrow its going to take a long time to synthesize I think.

JUburton wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:I’d guess tax/charity stuff will be of even less consequence to Republican Senators and their constituents. If asking another country to interfere in our election isn’t enough to sway them, I doubt the fact that Trump is a tax and charity cheat will be. Pretty sure that stuff, along with so much else about his lowlife tendencies, is already baked in.

They're not the audience though.

traderdave wrote:I think we can all agree that, short of some smoking gun that is yet to be discovered, Trump will be impeached but not convicted. I think we should not sleep on the fact that Trump may be forced to release his tax returns in the near future. I believe he will resign rather than release them.

Warszawa wrote:

traderdave wrote:I think we can all agree that, short of some smoking gun that is yet to be discovered, Trump will be impeached but not convicted. I think we should not sleep on the fact that Trump may be forced to release his tax returns in the near future. I believe he will resign rather than release them.

Who would release them the IRS? What if they just refuse even with a court order?

JFLNYC wrote:

JUburton wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:I’d guess tax/charity stuff will be of even less consequence to Republican Senators and their constituents. If asking another country to interfere in our election isn’t enough to sway them, I doubt the fact that Trump is a tax and charity cheat will be. Pretty sure that stuff, along with so much else about his lowlife tendencies, is already baked in.

They're not the audience though.

It is. If you don't convince at least some of that audience you've got nothing.

threecount wrote:Should I panic that Trump is "ahead" of Biden and the field in new polls in Wisconsin and Michigan?

CalvinBall wrote:man just the few clips i have seen of it are pretty fucking bleak

JUburton wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

JUburton wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:I’d guess tax/charity stuff will be of even less consequence to Republican Senators and their constituents. If asking another country to interfere in our election isn’t enough to sway them, I doubt the fact that Trump is a tax and charity cheat will be. Pretty sure that stuff, along with so much else about his lowlife tendencies, is already baked in.

They're not the audience though.

It is. If you don't convince at least some of that audience you've got nothing.

The audience at that point is the American people. There is nothing Trump can do, short of shoot someone on 5th avenue, to get a Republican senate to convict him. Trump is the country and therefore fealty to Trump is fealty to the country. He can do no wrong.

JFLNYC wrote:

JUburton wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

JUburton wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:I’d guess tax/charity stuff will be of even less consequence to Republican Senators and their constituents. If asking another country to interfere in our election isn’t enough to sway them, I doubt the fact that Trump is a tax and charity cheat will be. Pretty sure that stuff, along with so much else about his lowlife tendencies, is already baked in.

They're not the audience though.

It is. If you don't convince at least some of that audience you've got nothing.

The audience at that point is the American people. There is nothing Trump can do, short of shoot someone on 5th avenue, to get a Republican senate to convict him. Trump is the country and therefore fealty to Trump is fealty to the country. He can do no wrong.

Agreed. Which is why I think "waiting until you have a full corruption case with his tax returns, charity stealing, etc." won't make any difference.

JUburton wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

JUburton wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

JUburton wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:I’d guess tax/charity stuff will be of even less consequence to Republican Senators and their constituents. If asking another country to interfere in our election isn’t enough to sway them, I doubt the fact that Trump is a tax and charity cheat will be. Pretty sure that stuff, along with so much else about his lowlife tendencies, is already baked in.

They're not the audience though.

It is. If you don't convince at least some of that audience you've got nothing.

The audience at that point is the American people. There is nothing Trump can do, short of shoot someone on 5th avenue, to get a Republican senate to convict him. Trump is the country and therefore fealty to Trump is fealty to the country. He can do no wrong.

Agreed. Which is why I think "waiting until you have a full corruption case with his tax returns, charity stealing, etc." won't make any difference.

To the elected republicans yes, to the somewhat mythical swing voter, I hope there's still some room to persuade them if they're leaning Trump.