swishnicholson wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:

swishnicholson wrote:The overreaction to some small deviations from Democratic conformity aren't a good look.

Nor is her consistent support of Bashar al-Assad.

The one she referred to as a "brutal dictator?" Look, she's not getting my vote anyway, but she's a consistent non-interventionist which I prefer to the Trumpian blowhard of tough talk followed by passive or not-so-passive laissez-faire to dictators, or, in his trumpian way, a sandwich of blowhard/free pass/blowhard. For all practical purposes we've conceded Syria to Assad so any tough talk by other Democratic candidates falls into that blowhard realm unless they're willing to step into a war that I don't think they or the country has the stomach for. It's just so much chirping, and her refusal to go along, as I say, tends me toward feelings of respect, though not agreement.

It sickens me the way the Syrian situation has devolved. But staying out of situations we can't resolve used to be pretty mainstream Democratic,not a reason to be cast as a foreign agent (though certainly there are aspects that suit the policy goals of other nations).

Mulvaney said Trump "saw an opportunity to take the biggest leaders from around the world, and he wanted to put on the absolute best show."

"At the end of the day, you know, he still considers himself to be in the hospitality business," Mulvaney explained.

CFP wrote:Pierre Delecto

momadance wrote:@jdawsey1
"You people with this phony Emoluments Clause," Trump tells assembled media questioning him about attempt to put G-7 at his own resort.

traderdave wrote:

momadance wrote:@jdawsey1
"You people with this phony Emoluments Clause," Trump tells assembled media questioning him about attempt to put G-7 at his own resort.

Not sure if the bigger story is that Trump thinks the Emoluments Clause is "phony" or that he can pronounce "emoluments".

The Sarge wrote:

momadance wrote:

thephan wrote:

Jacob Wohl’s latest fake accuser says Wohl tricked him into making allegations against Kamala Harris, convincing him he was just auditioning for a fictional Spike TV show.

What does it take to send Jacob Wohl to jail? He has a court date 10/24 in California on fraud.

Lol they're having another press conference on Monday with "Pelosi and Schiff's coke and meth dealer"

What are the odds that Trump believes everything he is putting out? I'm guessing 100%

JFLNYC wrote:Finding someone preferable to Trump and his foreign policy is a pretty low bar and a false dilemma. There are other alternatives. Gabbard has said a lot of other things than “brutal dictator” about Assad and US involvement in Syria. In the context of her full body of work on the subject those two words seem little more than lip service.

Gabbard’s view that we were still involved in a “regime-change” war is Syria is also misleading and outdated. The small number of troops we had left in Syria were there to defeat ISIS and subsequently to support the Kurds from attack by Syria or Turkey. In both respects they were remarkably successful.

History has proven that noninterventionism as fundamentalist dogma often doesn’t work and Syria is no exception — especially when troops have already been committed. In this case it has led to the ethnic cleansing of the Kurds, the release of thousands of ISIS supporters from prison camps and the strengthening of Assad, Russia and Iran. As an added byproduct it has weakened Israel’s security.

That’s an awfully high price to lay at the altar of noninterventionism.

The kind of noninterventionism supported by Gabbard’s and effected by Trump is too blunt an instrument in the case of Syria (and the Middle East in general). We need a more nuanced approach.

I have no idea whether Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset, a useful idiot or neither. I do know that if a Russian asset were to share his or her views on American foreign policy, they would sound a lot like Tulsi Gabbard’s.