Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby thephan » Tue Oct 22, 2019 16:28:11

momadance wrote:@AaronBlake
Trump said Oct. 3 that he spoke with McConnell about the Zelensky call, and McConnell called it "innocent."

McConnell today: "I don't recall any conversations with the president about that phone call."


A little clarity

President Donald Trump claimed earlier this month that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told him that his phone call with the Ukrainian president was “the most innocent phone call that I’ve ever read.”

But McConnell said Tuesday he’s never had a conversation about the phone call with the president.

“We’ve not had any conversations on that subject,” McConnell told reporters about the transcript of the call between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Trump.


The denial is a little stronger.
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Tue Oct 22, 2019 17:26:41

jerseyhoya wrote:Sondland can bury Trump if he wants to

Like conviction in the Senate is a live possibility


All these people are going to testify publicly eventually right?
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby traderdave » Tue Oct 22, 2019 17:46:20

It does not seem that Taylor broke any new ground today but the testimony was pretty damning nonethless. The withholding of aid to an ally for personal gain is both immoral and the very definition of abuse of power. The Jenga pieces have been being removed for a while but it finally feels like the tower may topple soon.

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby Bucky » Tue Oct 22, 2019 17:57:11

everyone else who has said it before him has eventually walked it back, right?

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby thephan » Tue Oct 22, 2019 18:03:54

Diplomat says Ukraine aid was tied to political investigations


What new ground are you going to find? Investigation is about asserting a positive or negative finding. Leads are followed if they occur, but the center is on the claim. Confirmation is a positive effect in pricing an assertion.
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby momadance » Tue Oct 22, 2019 18:26:21

Warszawa wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Sondland can bury Trump if he wants to

Like conviction in the Senate is a live possibility


All these people are going to testify publicly eventually right?


Yes. These are just depositions. Then they will decide who testifies at the Senate trial.

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby thephan » Tue Oct 22, 2019 18:44:28

All right then, Turkey and the Russians and come to an agreement to jointly remove the Kurds from Syria.

Don is so proud of the troops he destroyed their honor.
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Tue Oct 22, 2019 19:06:12

traderdave wrote:It does not seem that Taylor broke any new ground today but the testimony was pretty damning nonethless. The withholding of aid to an ally for personal gain is both immoral and the very definition of abuse of power. The Jenga pieces have been being removed for a while but it finally feels like the tower may topple soon.



Lawmakers who heard the closed-door testimony were stunned, audibly gasping at points


Or maybe not

"I don't see anything that has advanced, the quid pro quo or the promise of anything with foreign aid," said Congressman Mark Meadows, Republican from North Carolina. "There's no one who can be intellectually honest and come out of that deposition and suggest otherwise."
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby Werthless » Tue Oct 22, 2019 19:58:19

War is Peace.

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby momadance » Tue Oct 22, 2019 20:01:48

Warszawa wrote:
traderdave wrote:It does not seem that Taylor broke any new ground today but the testimony was pretty damning nonethless. The withholding of aid to an ally for personal gain is both immoral and the very definition of abuse of power. The Jenga pieces have been being removed for a while but it finally feels like the tower may topple soon.



Lawmakers who heard the closed-door testimony were stunned, audibly gasping at points


Or maybe not

"I don't see anything that has advanced, the quid pro quo or the promise of anything with foreign aid," said Congressman Mark Meadows, Republican from North Carolina. "There's no one who can be intellectually honest and come out of that deposition and suggest otherwise."


He could piss on Jordan, Nunes, Gaetz, and Meadows and they would ask for more. They're congressmen so no their opinion doesn't matter anyway.

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Oct 22, 2019 20:16:03

Warszawa wrote:
traderdave wrote:It does not seem that Taylor broke any new ground today but the testimony was pretty damning nonethless. The withholding of aid to an ally for personal gain is both immoral and the very definition of abuse of power. The Jenga pieces have been being removed for a while but it finally feels like the tower may topple soon.



Lawmakers who heard the closed-door testimony were stunned, audibly gasping at points


Or maybe not

"I don't see anything that has advanced, the quid pro quo or the promise of anything with foreign aid," said Congressman Mark Meadows, Republican from North Carolina. "There's no one who can be intellectually honest and come out of that deposition and suggest otherwise."

Link?

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby thephan » Tue Oct 22, 2019 21:29:07

A prayer event for the Kurdish people that was scheduled for this week at President Trump's hotel in D.C. was abruptly canceled, the Washington Post reports.

The event, dubbed “A Night of Prayer for the Kurds,” was planned by Frontier Alliance International (FAI), a nonprofit Christian organization that provides medical aid in the Middle East.

FAI administrator Charlene Struebing said that hotel staff had expressed "security concerns."


Just remember, Don has nothing to do with the businesses, and the businesses have nothing to do with him.
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby thephan » Tue Oct 22, 2019 23:47:32

Exceptions for rape, incest removed as South Carolina lawmakers advance 'heartbeat' abortion bill


The most extreme version yet because one of these times it's going to sneak by, right? Governor has his pen ready to sign.

South Carolina is putting on a show today between this and Graham (Lynching comments and a bill to condemned the House investigations).
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby Gimpy » Wed Oct 23, 2019 00:01:54

thephan wrote:
momadance wrote:@AaronBlake
Trump said Oct. 3 that he spoke with McConnell about the Zelensky call, and McConnell called it "innocent."

McConnell today: "I don't recall any conversations with the president about that phone call."


A little clarity

President Donald Trump claimed earlier this month that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told him that his phone call with the Ukrainian president was “the most innocent phone call that I’ve ever read.”

But McConnell said Tuesday he’s never had a conversation about the phone call with the president.

“We’ve not had any conversations on that subject,” McConnell told reporters about the transcript of the call between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Trump.


The denial is a little stronger.


Typical Trump lie: it has to be the “most innocent” call ever. Things are always the most or the biggest or the best when he describes them (or when he pretends like he’s quoting someone else).

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby thephan » Wed Oct 23, 2019 00:12:23

This resolution puts the Senate on record condemning the House. ...Here's the point of the resolution: Any impeachment vote based on this process, to me, is illegitimate, is unconstitutional, and should be dismissed in the Senate without a trial," Graham told Fox News's Sean Hannity.


Sure Lindsey. McCain is spinning in his grave.
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Oct 23, 2019 05:49:52

Can you post links when you quote stuff? I generally like to have some context.

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Wed Oct 23, 2019 06:15:54

CalvinBall wrote:
Warszawa wrote:
traderdave wrote:It does not seem that Taylor broke any new ground today but the testimony was pretty damning nonethless. The withholding of aid to an ally for personal gain is both immoral and the very definition of abuse of power. The Jenga pieces have been being removed for a while but it finally feels like the tower may topple soon.



Lawmakers who heard the closed-door testimony were stunned, audibly gasping at points


Or maybe not

"I don't see anything that has advanced, the quid pro quo or the promise of anything with foreign aid," said Congressman Mark Meadows, Republican from North Carolina. "There's no one who can be intellectually honest and come out of that deposition and suggest otherwise."

Link?


https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/trump ... 019-10-22/
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby thephan » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:17:13

Non-story of the year prediction: Trump subtly flips off astronaut after being corrected.

You know this is fake news because Trump is unfamiliar with the concept of subtly.
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby momadance » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:36:15

Matt Gaetz is leading about 20 republicans in trying to storm the SCIF right now. Hope he gets arrested.

https://twitter.com/sambrodey/status/11 ... 0096398339

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby momadance » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:44:18

@AndrewDesiderio
NEWS: Source tells me that after House Republicans tried flooding the SCIF with non-committee members, “many brought their cell phones too into the classified area.”

“Stand off in progress,” source adds.

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