Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby TomatoPie » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:53:42

Squire wrote:
Soren wrote:I'm pessimistically assuming that if anything it should drag on long enough to finish his term.


If he's removed, I figure Pence pardons him and his family for all alleged federal crimes a'la Nixon (though NYState and others could still pursue).
If he's defeated the new Justice Department could prosecute but I can definitely see them wanting to let it go and move on. Though I would like to see the guy locked up.


This isn't just Nixon level crimes, though. The collusion with foreign governments is probably as extensive as Seth Abramson has reported. That plus the decades of money laundering. You can't let this guy walk.
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby The Savior » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:52:07

jerseyhoya wrote:
The Savior wrote:We live in an America where I don’t know if Barr ordered the arrest of these guiliani criminals to avoid anymore issues regarding potential interviews on the hill or further talking on wire tapped phones. Literally, don’t known Barr is obstructing or not.

If the guys were under a sealed felony indictment and had one way tickets to leave the US, that would seem a good time to arrest them and not a very obstruct-y thing, as it increases the potential for them talking against people much closer to the President like Rudy.


Or they keep chatting on their calls that are clearly tapped. Barr was at SDNY on Wednesday conveniently. Also convenient that guiliani not picked up.
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby The Savior » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:53:45

We are sending 2k troops to Saudi to protect against Iran. This after we are letting allies who are helping us against Iranian influence in the area get slaughtered.

This guys are so clearly corrupt.
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby azrider » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:55:16

The Savior wrote:We are sending 2k troops to Saudi to protect against Iran. This after we are letting allies who are helping us against Iranian influence in the area get slaughtered.

This guys are so clearly corrupt.


middle eastern foreign policy has been a shit show since day one. and i'm not talking day one of the trump administration either.

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Fri Oct 11, 2019 13:22:56

Why is Sondland so eager to testify?
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby Wolfgang622 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 13:31:25

Uncle Milty wrote:I'd relish all his properties and assets getting seized.


RICO, come on down, you're the next contestant on The Price is Wrong!
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby Werthless » Fri Oct 11, 2019 13:36:10

Warszawa wrote:Why is Sondland so eager to testify?

I assume he's a trump loyalist, from his texts. He's gonna stick with Trump, and be handsomely rewarded.

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby Grotewold » Fri Oct 11, 2019 13:38:28

Werthless wrote:
Warszawa wrote:Why is Sondland so eager to testify?

I assume he's a trump loyalist, from his texts. He's gonna stick with Trump, and be handsomely rewarded.


Hmm

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby thephan » Fri Oct 11, 2019 13:41:47

Sondland got $$$, he was in this for the legitimization of new $ becoming an institution. He might value the goal he was shooting for more. Then again I have heard him called mini-Trump as well WRT being brash, and bullying.
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby Werthless » Fri Oct 11, 2019 14:08:46

The reward could be the reward to his ego. Who knows. I'm just not optimistic about his testimony.

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby momadance » Fri Oct 11, 2019 14:21:27

The White House tried to stop Yovanovitch from testifying this morning. She told the committee that the state dept is being hollowed out from within and to expect many more resignations.

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby Phred » Fri Oct 11, 2019 14:23:26

Maybe he is trying to save his own ass? I guess that we would have heard of a deal being made or something but I don't know. He probably never expected to be caught and maybe he is now circling his wagon.
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby Uncle Milty » Fri Oct 11, 2019 14:38:56

Don't think anyone is worried about saving their ass. Any accountability will be minor or they will be pardoned.

You have to put this in perspective. They're only destroying our democracy. It's not like they acted inappropriately by today's societal norms 30 years ago and need to be held accountable.
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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby Squire » Fri Oct 11, 2019 14:49:06

Werthless wrote:The reward could be the reward to his ego. Who knows. I'm just not optimistic about his testimony.


I mean I'm pretty optimisic that even the Trump loyalists will end up being good witnesses because they will absolutely get tripped up by questioning.

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby momadance » Fri Oct 11, 2019 15:11:25

The business relationship between President Donald Trump's private lawyer Rudy Giuliani and the men charged Thursday in a campaign finance scheme is a subject of the ongoing criminal investigation being conducted by federal authorities in New York, according to two sources familiar with the matter.


Imagine Rudy going to jail.

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby momadance » Fri Oct 11, 2019 15:49:35

Newsweek reporting that Turkey has bombed some US troops.

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby Werthless » Fri Oct 11, 2019 15:53:33

momadance wrote:Newsweek reporting that Turkey has bombed some US troops.

Oops

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Oct 11, 2019 15:53:42

momadance wrote:Newsweek reporting that Turkey has bombed some US troops.


Trump supports the troops (just not ours)

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby Squire » Fri Oct 11, 2019 15:56:19

momadance wrote:Newsweek reporting that Turkey has bombed some US troops.


Trump wouldn't be the least bit bothered by this.

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Re: Donny J and the Giant ImPeach: politics

Postby momadance » Fri Oct 11, 2019 16:02:17

Barr met with Rupert Murdoch last night. Shepard Smith just canned.

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