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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby 06hawkalum » Fri Aug 09, 2019 13:58:34

Uncle Milty wrote:Sweeping student debt elimination is bogus. Speaking for myself and others who realized a college education was not feasible, and seizing a chance to quote the Buzzcocks:

What do I get?


A generation of young workers with a ton of newly found disposable income to plow back into the economy.

Your attitude about this matter reminds me of the olds complaining about paying property tax because "I don't have any kids in school."

Everyone benefits from a better educated, less debt-encumbered workforce.
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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Aug 09, 2019 14:02:10

Why not have the government pay off everyone's mortgages, car loans and credit card bills while we're at it

No debt for anybody!

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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby momadance » Fri Aug 09, 2019 14:19:34

jerseyhoya wrote:Why not have the government pay off everyone's mortgages, car loans and credit card bills while we're at it

No debt for anybody!


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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby 06hawkalum » Fri Aug 09, 2019 14:20:10

jerseyhoya wrote:Why not have the government pay off everyone's mortgages, car loans and credit card bills while we're at it

No debt for anybody!


That's a straw man if I've ever seen one.
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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Aug 09, 2019 14:23:33

06hawkalum wrote:
Uncle Milty wrote:Sweeping student debt elimination is bogus. Speaking for myself and others who realized a college education was not feasible, and seizing a chance to quote the Buzzcocks:

What do I get?


A generation of young workers with a ton of newly found disposable income to plow back into the economy.

Your attitude about this matter reminds me of the olds complaining about paying property tax because "I don't have any kids in school."

Everyone benefits from a better educated, less debt-encumbered workforce.


Speaking as an “old” I’ve made my position on the student debt scam clear previously here. But not “everyone benefits,” e.g. the people who lent the money. The problem has to be addressed, but with a scalpel, not an axe.
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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby The Sarge » Fri Aug 09, 2019 14:26:27

Kid Rock
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Taylor Swift wants to be a democrat because she wants to be in movies….period. And it looks like she will suck the door knob off Hollyweird to get there. Oldest move in the book. Good luck girl.

-Kid Rock



It might be appropriate to point out that he was Trump's guest in the oval office and explored a run for the senate. Also, what the fuck is this about anyway?
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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Aug 09, 2019 14:44:11

On the generational issue of student debt--keep in mind that the older you are, the more heavily subsidized your tuition was. Even if you attended a private college, tuition was still substantially less in constant dollars than it is today. Also, there were numerous federal programs to help make college affordable through the seventies, until they were systematically gutted by the Reagan administration.

Still, though I don't think making public colleges entirely free is necessarily the best answer here. Warren's plan could reproduce something like the European system of higher ed--a handful of elite public universities with fiercely competitive admissions with everyone else attending massive non-selective publics that churn out credit hours with substantially less student engagement than our current system. It seems likely that only the most elite private colleges and universities would survive if they had to compete with free public universities.
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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby pacino » Fri Aug 09, 2019 14:47:53

The Sarge wrote:
Kid Rock
@KidRock

Taylor Swift wants to be a democrat because she wants to be in movies….period. And it looks like she will suck the door knob off Hollyweird to get there. Oldest move in the book. Good luck girl.

-Kid Rock



It might be appropriate to point out that he was Trump's guest in the oval office and explored a run for the senate. Also, what the #$!&@ is this about anyway?

It's because she has opinions
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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby td11 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 14:58:28

jerseyhoya wrote:Why not have the government pay off everyone's mortgages, car loans and credit card bills while we're at it

No debt for anybody!


Sounds great
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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby Squire » Fri Aug 09, 2019 15:03:04

momadance wrote:Judge just ruled to release a ton of Epstein docs. Quote from the ruling:

"Giuffre also alleged she was 'forced' to have sex with Dershowitz, 'model scout' Jean Luc Brunel, and 'many other powerful men, inc. numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known Prime Minister..."


Apparently she named Maine Senator George Mitchell, NM Governor BilL Richardson, MIT Professor Marvin Minsky and money manager Glenn Dubin. This is pretty incredible stuff.

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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby td11 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 15:03:08

Student, medical, and school lunch debt should be 100% forgiven/cancelled
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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby momadance » Fri Aug 09, 2019 15:09:44

Squire wrote:
momadance wrote:Judge just ruled to release a ton of Epstein docs. Quote from the ruling:

"Giuffre also alleged she was 'forced' to have sex with Dershowitz, 'model scout' Jean Luc Brunel, and 'many other powerful men, inc. numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known Prime Minister..."


Apparently she named Maine Senator George Mitchell, NM Governor BilL Richardson, MIT Professor Marvin Minsky and money manager Glenn Dubin. This is pretty incredible stuff.


Also Dershowitz and Prince Andrew, but they were already known. The PM is believed to be Ehud Barak.

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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby thephan » Fri Aug 09, 2019 15:10:10

It is a little funny to think that Kid Rock does not think that Tay-tay could get herself into a movie if she wanted to. That lady has power, and she just might be learning how to use it from some other powerful women.
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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby JUburton » Fri Aug 09, 2019 15:11:35

pacino wrote:
The Sarge wrote:
Kid Rock
@KidRock

Taylor Swift wants to be a democrat because she wants to be in movies….period. And it looks like she will suck the door knob off Hollyweird to get there. Oldest move in the book. Good luck girl.

-Kid Rock



It might be appropriate to point out that he was Trump's guest in the oval office and explored a run for the senate. Also, what the #$!&@ is this about anyway?

It's because she has opinions
she being the key word

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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby thephan » Fri Aug 09, 2019 15:13:31

Melania joins the tone def fray by tweeting out a photo of her holding the baby that survived the shooting. That child will grow up without parents. Melania is beaming a smile, and uncle Don is giving a big old thumbs up.

This is either a dystopian reality or they are even more emotionally void then is comprehensible.
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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby thephan » Fri Aug 09, 2019 15:17:19

Chrissy Teigen weighed in on KRock's tweet. She kept is tight: "you’re pathetic"
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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby 06hawkalum » Fri Aug 09, 2019 16:23:11

So, I am looking at the electoral map and IF Biden ends up the nominee I just don't see a path to victory for Trump.

Even if he wins FL, OH, and NC he would need to win one of:

VA, PA, MI, and WI.

Does anyone really foresee Trump being competitive against Biden in any of those four states? He lost VA and won the other three by razor thin margins against Hillary.
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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby Wolfgang622 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 16:28:33

The Sarge wrote:
Kid Rock
@KidRock

Taylor Swift wants to be a democrat because she wants to be in movies….period. And it looks like she will suck the door knob off Hollyweird to get there. Oldest move in the book. Good luck girl.

-Kid Rock



It might be appropriate to point out that he was Trump's guest in the oval office and explored a run for the senate. Also, what the fuck is this about anyway?


That dude has no qualms about including a confederate flag in his act.

Ergo, any opinion he ever has should be beneath the notice and regard of any educated person.
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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby thephan » Fri Aug 09, 2019 16:45:00

Detroit was in the heart of Dixie. Just his heritage.
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Re: Politics Thread: Wear Your SPF and Don't Get Bernie'd

Postby Brantt » Fri Aug 09, 2019 16:57:24

Wolfgang622 wrote:
The Sarge wrote:
Kid Rock
@KidRock

Taylor Swift wants to be a democrat because she wants to be in movies….period. And it looks like she will suck the door knob off Hollyweird to get there. Oldest move in the book. Good luck girl.

-Kid Rock



It might be appropriate to point out that he was Trump's guest in the oval office and explored a run for the senate. Also, what the #$!&@ is this about anyway?


That dude has no qualms about including a confederate flag in his act.

Ergo, any opinion he ever has should be beneath the notice and regard of any educated person.



LOL.

Oh yes, Kid Rock is now a racist.

Nevermind his son is half black, he's received awards from the NAACP and he's done more for the city of Detroit than almost anyone in Michigan over the last ten to fifteen years. He also hasn't "included a confederate flag in his act" for almost a decade.
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