Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby pacino » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:41:42

Learned this morning the furlough notification was actually sent on December 22nd so technically anytime after January 21st I can be furloughed if needed.
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby traderdave » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:42:18

Roger Dorn wrote:@realDonaldTrump Great being with the National Champion Clemson Tigers last night at the White House. Because of the Shutdown I served them massive amounts of Fast Food (I paid), over 1000 hamberders etc. Within one hour, it was all gone. Great guys and big eaters!


National Champions and the best you can do is a fast food hamberder? "Umm, sir, your order is ready". And I love that he has to include that he paid. What an absolute asshole this guy is. And, BTW, that was not a typo from Roger, Trump actually posted "hamberders".

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:49:42

pacino wrote:Learned this morning the furlough notification was actually sent on December 22nd so technically anytime after January 21st I can be furloughed if needed.


no pressure on the republicans pal. youre just a guy.

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby Grotewold » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:54:29

Uncle Milty wrote:Free vacation and all they do is complain.


And they can't ever be fired! Ever!

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby momadance » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:13:09

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby momadance » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:17:40

702 wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Do you think behind closed doors Mitch is pushing for a vote but his colleagues are just like we can't do it pal! I mean really

No, but I think most of them are happy to let it play out for a little while longer, and some of them are happy to let it go on a lot longer. If the TSA stuff starts spiraling, that might be something that instills urgency. As it stands, I don't think they're feeling much pressure.

The TSA portion is coming...checkpoints at some airports are being closed..flights will be cancelled and airlines will start feeling it in their pockets.


MIA and IAH have closed terminals. ATL is expecting 2 hour wait times today. It has already cost Delta $25m in revenue so far this month.

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby 702 » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:25:05

momadance wrote:
702 wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Do you think behind closed doors Mitch is pushing for a vote but his colleagues are just like we can't do it pal! I mean really

No, but I think most of them are happy to let it play out for a little while longer, and some of them are happy to let it go on a lot longer. If the TSA stuff starts spiraling, that might be something that instills urgency. As it stands, I don't think they're feeling much pressure.

The TSA portion is coming...checkpoints at some airports are being closed..flights will be cancelled and airlines will start feeling it in their pockets.


MIA and IAH have closed terminals. ATL is expecting 2 hour wait times today. It has already cost Delta $25m in revenue so far this month.


If this goes one more check (next friday) its going to be bad. I'm saying this from being with TSA and knowing the word going around and how much people are struggling.

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby momadance » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:50:23

702 wrote:If this goes one more check (next friday) its going to be bad. I'm saying this from being with TSA and knowing the word going around and how much people are struggling.


Right ... And it's not like they make much to begin with. No one is going to stick around for a shit salary that doesn't arrive on time.

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby Gimpy » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:03:11

jerseyhoya wrote:
Werthless wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Do you think behind closed doors Mitch is pushing for a vote but his colleagues are just like we can't do it pal! I mean really

No, but I think most of them are happy to let it play out for a little while longer, and some of them are happy to let it go on a lot longer. If the TSA stuff starts spiraling, that might be something that instills urgency. As it stands, I don't think they're feeling much pressure.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2592 wrote:American voters support 63 - 30 percent a Democratic proposal to reopen parts of the government that do not involve border security while negotiating funding for the Wall, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today. Every party, gender, education, age and racial group supports this idea except Republicans, who are opposed 52 - 39 percent.

Voters oppose 63 - 32 percent shutting down the government to force funding for the Wall, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University National Poll finds. Again, Republicans are the only listed group supporting the shutdown, 67 - 24 percent.

The GOP is losing the battle as 56 percent of American voters say President Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress are responsible for the shutdown, while 36 percent say Democrats are responsible.

These numbers can get worse for the GOP.

Election is in 22 months (and for most of the Senate GOP conference 2-4 years longer away than that). GOP took a lot of heat for the Cruz led shutdown in October 2013 and won a landslide in November 2014.

I think the prevailing opinion within the conference is having gone this far a short term hit is worth trying to get something out of the shutdown. The combination of there being no plan to achieve a positive compromise to resolve the shutdown & the likelihood that images are going to get much worse soon will probably force their hand even if Trump stays stubborn, but they're not there yet.


Unlike 2014, the next election is national so turnout will likely be higher than for a midterm. Also unlike 2014, democrats are super energized and that may carry beyond Trump’s term.

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby momadance » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:13:43

As the partial government shutdown continues, leadership in our organization has had to examine work we can continue to perform pursuant to the Antideficiency Act, 31 U.S.C section 1341 et seq. We have had to curtail certain activities, that while very important and valuable to the success of our organization, must cease until the shutdown ends. As such, the organization will be furloughing additional employees on Wednesday, January 16, 2019. Those impacted will be contacted directly by Human Resources via email with an official notice no later than 12:00pm today.


The federal employees here just got this a few mins ago.

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby thephan » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:14:16

momadance wrote:MIA and IAH have closed terminals. ATL is expecting 2 hour wait times today. It has already cost Delta $25m in revenue so far this month.


Maybe in the aftermath a regional carrier based in New York with some planes from the old Eastern fleet, and a few from the scraps of the 2018 industry can rise up. Who might take that opportunity?
yawn

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby thephan » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:17:14

Uncle Milty wrote:
thephan wrote:
Donald Trump’s top economic adviser (Kevin Hassett) said Thursday (Jan 11) that the 800,000 federal employees who have been furloughed without pay for three weeks are “better off” for it, because they did not have to use vacation days over the Christmas holiday.


That's a good optic. Heck its a bonus! No, its like a tax cut! Like Geico they are getting MORE. (psst. Don't tell their land loards, creditors, hungry family members, etc. And god forbid, don't tell the contractors, or service workers who are furloughed and will never get any compensation or back pay and who do have to expend any vacation they still have on the books).

Can't find a youtube of the interview to post. The look on his face when he spouted this #$!&@ shows exactly who these people are.


Hill coverage, embedded (but unwatched) video
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby traderdave » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:26:47

momadance wrote:
As the partial government shutdown continues, leadership in our organization has had to examine work we can continue to perform pursuant to the Antideficiency Act, 31 U.S.C section 1341 et seq. We have had to curtail certain activities, that while very important and valuable to the success of our organization, must cease until the shutdown ends. As such, the organization will be furloughing additional employees on Wednesday, January 16, 2019. Those impacted will be contacted directly by Human Resources via email with an official notice no later than 12:00pm today.


The federal employees here just got this a few mins ago.


Longest 30 mins of some people's lives. Hope it goes ok for you moma. Sorry anybody has to go through this.

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby Soren » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:31:49

CalvinBall wrote:
pacino wrote:Learned this morning the furlough notification was actually sent on December 22nd so technically anytime after January 21st I can be furloughed if needed.


no pressure on the republicans pal. youre just a guy.


it's fine though because 2020 is a long time from now so who will remember really.
Olivia Meadows, your "emotional poltergeist"

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby momadance » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:32:43

traderdave wrote:
momadance wrote:
As the partial government shutdown continues, leadership in our organization has had to examine work we can continue to perform pursuant to the Antideficiency Act, 31 U.S.C section 1341 et seq. We have had to curtail certain activities, that while very important and valuable to the success of our organization, must cease until the shutdown ends. As such, the organization will be furloughing additional employees on Wednesday, January 16, 2019. Those impacted will be contacted directly by Human Resources via email with an official notice no later than 12:00pm today.


The federal employees here just got this a few mins ago.


Longest 30 mins of some people's lives. Hope it goes ok for you moma. Sorry anybody has to go through this.


Someone pulled the fire alarm right after that email went out. Now we're freezing.

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby Slowhand » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:35:23

momadance wrote:
traderdave wrote:
momadance wrote:
As the partial government shutdown continues, leadership in our organization has had to examine work we can continue to perform pursuant to the Antideficiency Act, 31 U.S.C section 1341 et seq. We have had to curtail certain activities, that while very important and valuable to the success of our organization, must cease until the shutdown ends. As such, the organization will be furloughing additional employees on Wednesday, January 16, 2019. Those impacted will be contacted directly by Human Resources via email with an official notice no later than 12:00pm today.


The federal employees here just got this a few mins ago.


Longest 30 mins of some people's lives. Hope it goes ok for you moma. Sorry anybody has to go through this.


Someone pulled the fire alarm right after that email went out. Now we're freezing.


Wait what? Seriously?
How dare you interrupt my Lime Rickey!

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby Slowhand » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:37:57

I wonder what it's like to simply not give a shit about literally anyone but yourself.
How dare you interrupt my Lime Rickey!

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby momadance » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:40:08

Yep. Standing out in the snow.

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby pacino » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:41:19

Ugh, sorry
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby momadance » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:44:34

thephan wrote:
momadance wrote:MIA and IAH have closed terminals. ATL is expecting 2 hour wait times today. It has already cost Delta $25m in revenue so far this month.


Maybe in the aftermath a regional carrier based in New York with some planes from the old Eastern fleet, and a few from the scraps of the 2018 industry can rise up. Who might take that opportunity?


When he is no longer in office his fuel bills for his jet will triple. ATC will hold him everywhere he goes.

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