Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 22:18:21

Pretty remarkable that Mitch still won't allow a vote. Don't understand why he is so beholden to Trump. It would pass. He's a coward.

by **slugsrbad** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 22:28:56

CalvinBall wrote:Pretty remarkable that Mitch still won't allow a vote. Don't understand why he is so beholden to Trump. It would pass. He's a coward.

His wife works in the administration, probably the best political move Trump made

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 22:54:48

He'll allow a vote when the Republican Senate Conference wants to have a vote.

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 23:06:55

He's their leader?

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 23:07:37

Do you think behind closed doors Mitch is pushing for a vote but his colleagues are just like we can't do it pal! I mean really

by **jerseyhoya** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 23:11:13

CalvinBall wrote:Do you think behind closed doors Mitch is pushing for a vote but his colleagues are just like we can't do it pal! I mean really

No, but I think most of them are happy to let it play out for a little while longer, and some of them are happy to let it go on a lot longer. If the TSA stuff starts spiraling, that might be something that instills urgency. As it stands, I don't think they're feeling much pressure.

by **Monkeyboy** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 23:18:44

CalvinBall wrote:Pretty remarkable that Mitch still won't allow a vote. Don't understand why he is so beholden to Trump. It would pass. He's a coward.

Mitch got russian money multiple times. He's neck deep in this.

by **702** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 01:03:24

jerseyhoya wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Do you think behind closed doors Mitch is pushing for a vote but his colleagues are just like we can't do it pal! I mean really

No, but I think most of them are happy to let it play out for a little while longer, and some of them are happy to let it go on a lot longer. If the TSA stuff starts spiraling, that might be something that instills urgency. As it stands, I don't think they're feeling much pressure.

The TSA portion is coming...checkpoints at some airports are being closed..flights will be cancelled and airlines will start feeling it in their pockets.

by **The Savior** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 07:21:19

702 wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Do you think behind closed doors Mitch is pushing for a vote but his colleagues are just like we can't do it pal! I mean really

No, but I think most of them are happy to let it play out for a little while longer, and some of them are happy to let it go on a lot longer. If the TSA stuff starts spiraling, that might be something that instills urgency. As it stands, I don't think they're feeling much pressure.

The TSA portion is coming...checkpoints at some airports are being closed..flights will be cancelled and airlines will start feeling it in their pockets.

This.

by **CalvinBall** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 08:04:11

It's already happening at airports.

Federal parks are trashed.

Lower skilled workers and contractors aren't getting paid.

But no pressure, Republicans. It barely impacts them, so why would they care about anyone except themselves?

by **Stay_Disappointed** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 09:39:29

Incredible that the president of the United States is possibly a traitor and as of today is still sitting in the White House

At this point it has to be assumed that every decision he makes is for the benefit of Russia. As far as the confirmation hearings today the dems should point that out

by **traderdave** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 09:52:56

momadance wrote:
pacino wrote:We were given our 30 day notice of the possibility of furloughs. If this goes on much longer millions and millions will be out of work.

Yep. I have until 1/31 and I won't receive back pay.

My brother is in the same boat as you guys. He works ATC at a major SE facility. I really hope this idiocy is resolved soon.

by **Werthless** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:07:02

jerseyhoya wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Do you think behind closed doors Mitch is pushing for a vote but his colleagues are just like we can't do it pal! I mean really

No, but I think most of them are happy to let it play out for a little while longer, and some of them are happy to let it go on a lot longer. If the TSA stuff starts spiraling, that might be something that instills urgency. As it stands, I don't think they're feeling much pressure.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2592 wrote:American voters support 63 - 30 percent a Democratic proposal to reopen parts of the government that do not involve border security while negotiating funding for the Wall, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today. Every party, gender, education, age and racial group supports this idea except Republicans, who are opposed 52 - 39 percent.

Voters oppose 63 - 32 percent shutting down the government to force funding for the Wall, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University National Poll finds. Again, Republicans are the only listed group supporting the shutdown, 67 - 24 percent.

The GOP is losing the battle as 56 percent of American voters say President Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress are responsible for the shutdown, while 36 percent say Democrats are responsible.

These numbers can get worse for the GOP.

by **thephan** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:14:34

Donald Trump’s top economic adviser (Kevin Hassett) said Thursday (Jan 11) that the 800,000 federal employees who have been furloughed without pay for three weeks are “better off” for it, because they did not have to use vacation days over the Christmas holiday.

That's a good optic. Heck its a bonus! No, its like a tax cut! Like Geico they are getting MORE. (psst. Don't tell their land loards, creditors, hungry family members, etc. And god forbid, don't tell the contractors, or service workers who are furloughed and will never get any compensation or back pay and who do have to expend any vacation they still have on the books).

by **thephan** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:17:12

"The fake news is not covering that Trump bought fast food out of his own pocket because the kitchen staff is mostly furloughed... he's suffering too."

Over heard. I needed to move along quickly...

by **Monkeyboy** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:20:14

But I thought he was a billionaire and rolling in cash. Cheap bastard

by **Roger Dorn** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:24:16

@realDonaldTrump Great being with the National Champion Clemson Tigers last night at the White House. Because of the Shutdown I served them massive amounts of Fast Food (I paid), over 1000 hamberders etc. Within one hour, it was all gone. Great guys and big eaters!

by **CFP** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:25:43

He pulled off steamed hams in real life. What a masterful troll.

by **jerseyhoya** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:26:57

Werthless wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Do you think behind closed doors Mitch is pushing for a vote but his colleagues are just like we can't do it pal! I mean really

No, but I think most of them are happy to let it play out for a little while longer, and some of them are happy to let it go on a lot longer. If the TSA stuff starts spiraling, that might be something that instills urgency. As it stands, I don't think they're feeling much pressure.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2592 wrote:American voters support 63 - 30 percent a Democratic proposal to reopen parts of the government that do not involve border security while negotiating funding for the Wall, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today. Every party, gender, education, age and racial group supports this idea except Republicans, who are opposed 52 - 39 percent.

Voters oppose 63 - 32 percent shutting down the government to force funding for the Wall, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University National Poll finds. Again, Republicans are the only listed group supporting the shutdown, 67 - 24 percent.

The GOP is losing the battle as 56 percent of American voters say President Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress are responsible for the shutdown, while 36 percent say Democrats are responsible.

These numbers can get worse for the GOP.

Election is in 22 months (and for most of the Senate GOP conference 2-4 years longer away than that). GOP took a lot of heat for the Cruz led shutdown in October 2013 and won a landslide in November 2014.

I think the prevailing opinion within the conference is having gone this far a short term hit is worth trying to get something out of the shutdown. The combination of there being no plan to achieve a positive compromise to resolve the shutdown & the likelihood that images are going to get much worse soon will probably force their hand even if Trump stays stubborn, but they're not there yet.

by **Grotewold** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:34:23

CalvinBall wrote:It's already happening at airports.

Federal parks are trashed.

Lower skilled workers and contractors aren't getting paid.

But no pressure, Republicans. It barely impacts them, so why would they care about anyone except themselves?

It probably doesn't help them long-term for their voters to see all that "government" actually entails.

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