It's real, but it wont affect anything.

pacino wrote:I'll never understand the yes on cloture if you're a no on the vote itself.

Collins has always voted for SC nominees, was one of two GOP senators to oppose GOP leadership on not holding hearings for Garland, and I'm sure has said at many times in the past that nominees deserve and up or down vote. Wouldn't put it past her to say she thought he deserved an up or down vote but voting no on confirmation, though I think the most likely outcome is him getting confirmed with 51 votes.

Would put Manchin in a very awkward spot if she does flip.

Isn't it fairly obvious that Manchin will just do whatever Collins does?

Do we think they’ll find a way to leave it to Pence? I hope so. Can’t get enough Mike Pence!

Phred wrote:I swear that I saw a tweet this morning that some GOP senator's daughter is getting married this weekend so he won't be there tomorrow for a vote. Unfortunately, I can't find the tweet anymore so maybe it was BS.

Senator Daines has made arrangements to get back if his vote is needed. I think they can also hold the vote a bit for him to get back by Sunday.

Flake is a YES

Murkowski is a NO

So it comes down to Collins/Manchin

Woody wrote:Do we think they’ll find a way to leave it to Pence? I hope so. Can’t get enough Mike Pence!

That would be the worst outcome.

Flake is such a damn doofus.

06hawkalum wrote:Flake is a YES

Murkowski is a NO

So it comes down to Collins/Manchin

He's not a moderate, he just plays one on TV.

PhillieMooDo wrote:

06hawkalum wrote:Flake is a YES

Murkowski is a NO

So it comes down to Collins/Manchin

He's not a moderate, he just plays one on TV.

Yep, guy is a fraud.

There was not an opportunity for an external conscious for Flake today. I think they are keeping him locked away from the public. They probably will transport him to and from the chamber in a box surrounded by armed guards.

Does there exist 'normalized' voting stats anywhere? What I mean is, I often see that "xxxx votes with the party 95% of the time". But I'm guessing those include the majority of the votes where BOTH parties vote the same way (i.e. Proclamation Declaring February National Tiddlywinks Month). I don't know what the exact criteria should be, but maybe something along the lines of counting only those votes where more than 50% of each party voted differently....

pacino wrote:Flake is such a damn doofus.

Did you listen to the This American Life episode where he let a reporter go with him and record during meetings to get his immigration bill passed. Highly recommend it

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/642/th ... ible-dream

thephan wrote:

Woody wrote:Do we think they’ll find a way to leave it to Pence? I hope so. Can’t get enough Mike Pence!

That would be the worst outcome.

From 60 votes required to a vice-presidential tie-breaker to confirm the swing SCOTUS vote for a generation. Sounds good

Bucky wrote:Does there exist 'normalized' voting stats anywhere? What I mean is, I often see that "xxxx votes with the party 95% of the time". But I'm guessing those include the majority of the votes where BOTH parties vote the same way (i.e. Proclamation Declaring February National Tiddlywinks Month). I don't know what the exact criteria should be, but maybe something along the lines of counting only those votes where more than 50% of each party voted differently....

No, party unity scores are calculated to exclude those kind of votes. Party unity scores are when you vote with the majority of your party, and against the majority of the other party.

Here's a fun website:

https://library.cqpress.com/uspolitical ... .php_id=10

Most senators are ringing busy when you call them right now.

I still find it odd where people look to find heroes. Flake was always going to be a Yes unless something big came up which it wouldn’t based on the scope of the investigation. Collins has also been looking on how to get to yes and Manchin is Manchin. I would think that Kavanaughs views on the ACA would be enough for a no, but it might not be.

Toomey is a garbage human and him representing PA bothers me more than I can explain.

slugsrbad wrote:I still find it odd where people look to find heroes. Flake was always going to be a Yes unless something big came up which it wouldn’t based on the scope of the investigation. Collins has also been looking on how to get to yes and Manchin is Manchin. I would think that Kavanaughs views on the ACA would be enough for a no, but it might not be.

A Collins speech is an odd move and one that probably means yes but I'm holding out a small amount of hope.

i wonder if the opinion of the third-longest-service justice in SCOTUS history moves the needle for anyone.