The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby 06hawkalum » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:12:46

While I understand the alarm, this would actually benefit Dems because it would gin up turnout in six weeks. Then in January they can rehire Mueller if he has been fired.

Prediction: Mueller investigation continues abated, regardless of what happens to Rosenstein.
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby JFLNYC » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:13:38

Bill McNeal wrote:How can anyone in the government be ok with allowing Trump to shut down an investigation into himself? How can the public be okay with this?


Republicans have shown, and continue to show, that their political imperatives trump (no pun intended) any obligations they may feel to the country and its laws. The public became OK with it when they elected those representatives.
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby PhillieMooDo » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:14:33

Bill McNeal wrote:How can anyone in the government be ok with allowing Trump to shut down an investigation into himself? How can the public be okay with this?

Well, they got tax cuts and conservative SC justices...

Totally worth it!
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby JFLNYC » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:15:55

06hawkalum wrote:While I understand the alarm, this would actually benefit Dems because it would gin up turnout in six weeks. Then in January they can rehire Mueller if he has been fired.

Prediction: Mueller investigation continues abated, regardless of what happens to Rosenstein.


The DAG is part of the DOJ which is in the Executive Branch and appointed by the President, who will still be in office after the elections. Also, I think you meant "unabated."
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby pacino » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:22:11

Bill McNeal wrote:How can anyone in the government be ok with allowing Trump to shut down an investigation into himself? How can the public be okay with this?

They like his policies
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby pacino » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:30:53

Rod may stay
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby 06hawkalum » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:32:05

JFLNYC wrote:
06hawkalum wrote:While I understand the alarm, this would actually benefit Dems because it would gin up turnout in six weeks. Then in January they can rehire Mueller if he has been fired.

Prediction: Mueller investigation continues abated, regardless of what happens to Rosenstein.


The DAG is part of the DOJ which is in the Executive Branch and appointed by the President, who will still be in office after the elections. Also, I think you meant "unabated."


Yes, but, presuming the House goes blue, Dems can appoint their own special counsel to investigate.

And yes, I meant unabated.
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:39:53

reading between the lines (and this is pure speculation)

WH leaks story of wiretapping and 25th amendment push
WH leaks story of him resigning
both designed to get him to resign
he calls Trump's bluff and he isn't fired
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby thephan » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:39:53

JFLNYC wrote: Also, I think you meant "unabated."


I initially thought that, but abated means slowed, diminished whereas unabated means full steam ahead (definitions use terms related to strength & intensity). So I think he was saying what he meant.
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby thephan » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:41:50

Trump’s trade policies also are making it difficult for big business groups like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the National Association of Manufacturers and the National Retail Federation that generally support pro-business Republicans. The Chamber, for example, is still spending money on ads supportive of GOP candidates like Rossi in Washington state, while strongly opposing Trump’s trade policy and issuing charts listing the states most heavily impacted by retaliatory tariffs on American exports.

The Chamber’s latest list of states impacted the most include Alabama, Michigan, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas and Wisconsin


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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby thephan » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:53:02

Rosenstein should call in sick Thursday.
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:53:47

gee, same day as the Ford testimony
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby Squire » Mon Sep 24, 2018 13:00:01

So we have literally gone from Rosenstein will resign to the WH has accepted his resignation to he's been fired to he and the President will discuss in 3 days in like 90 minutes. And everyone will "stand by their story".

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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby CFP » Mon Sep 24, 2018 13:13:40

So he's staying. For now. It appears.

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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Mon Sep 24, 2018 13:18:25

during the chaos, Guiliani and Sekulow both state that if Rosenstein were removed that the Mueller probe should be put in a time out for review

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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby TenuredVulture » Mon Sep 24, 2018 13:33:06

Breaking news=news not likely to be accurate.

The media do seem to enjoy being played for chumps.

24 hour news cycles, twitter, and the like are really not helpful.

Of course, this is different from the "fake news" charges our President uses to denigrate the media. But the swirl of confusion certainly isn't helping matters.
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby Soren » Mon Sep 24, 2018 13:34:24

Bill McNeal wrote:How can anyone in the government be ok with allowing Trump to shut down an investigation into himself? How can the public be okay with this?


Because of the voodoo magic involved in the person 45 chose being the one to pull the plug, not 45 himself.
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby PhillieMooDo » Mon Sep 24, 2018 13:49:17

Just had a coworker ranting that Sessions never should've recused himself, "meeting with Russians was part of his job", and that Rosenstein should be the one recusing himself, "he interviewed Mueller for Comey's job, then appointed him special counsel the very next day!"

I'm too tired for this bullshit.
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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby thephan » Mon Sep 24, 2018 13:51:09

PhillieMooDo wrote:Just had a coworker ranting that Sessions never should've recused himself, "meeting with Russians was part of his job", and that Rosenstein should be the one recusing himself, "he interviewed Mueller for Comey's job, then appointed him special counsel the very next day!"

I'm too tired for this #$!&@.


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Re: The Moz Wave is Nov 6th - POLITICS

Postby Bucky » Mon Sep 24, 2018 13:53:19

oh hey but we're not talking about kavanaugh's rapes anymore!!

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