you started this off with a rightwing smear delegitimizing the identity of being Palestinian; i fail to see where i engaged in any. calling Israel's move stupid and short-sighted is not an ad hominem attack.

people living in a prison (whether open air, one essentially around their person as they see their identity and legitimacy stripped from them) and having their rights stripped from them take precedence for me over a law such as this. ensuring Israel is secular is important for a better future for everyone living within Israel. That you side with the far rightwing in Israel says more about your thought process on this than anything I could type. you subscribing to the idea of Zionism doesn't mean that those that don't are somehow bad or don't think about the rights of Jewish persons; rather, integration and living together is an important long-term goal for all of the global society, including those who live in modern day Israel.

have a great day my friend!!!!

Trump: ‘Ready to go’ with tariffs on all Chinese imports

Its gonna be great people.

Roseanne Barr is claiming she thought Valerie Jarrett was white

saw that headline, decided that it makes no sense to take the click bait. Called her a bitch too if I saw it right. Whatever. Good luck to Roseanne as a Qanon racist on her journey to irrelevance. Just don't throw her any cash when you see her sleeping on the street in 2020.

pacino wrote:Roseanne Barr is claiming she thought Valerie Jarrett was white

From the same people that brought you 'what i meant to say was wouldn't, not would'.

Saw a portion of this the other day, pretty good.

pacino wrote:you started this off with a rightwing smear delegitimizing the identity of being Palestinian;

Fiction.

pacino wrote:calling Israel's move stupid and short-sighted is not an ad hominem attack.

It is the exact opposite of short-sighted. Whether ultimately right or effective, it was nevertheless designed to address the long-term existential threat of a Palestinian majority in Israel.

pacino wrote:people living in a prison (whether open air, one essentially around their person as they see their identity and legitimacy stripped from them) and having their rights stripped from them take precedence for me over a law such as this.

Ironically you could just as well be describing being an Israeli Jew being surrounded by threatening Arab states, mortar-lobbing Palestinian Arabs and suicide-bombing murdering terrorists.

pacino wrote:ensuring Israel is secular is important for a better future for everyone living within Israel.

Not if you're an Israeli Jew and the consequence of being secular is ultimately a Palestinian majority in Israel, making Israel just another Muslim-dominated theocracy in the Middle East with Jews either being expelled, discriminated against or worse.

pacino wrote:That you side with the far rightwing in Israel says more about your thought process on this than anything I could type.

I've been accused of many things in my life but never before being right-wing.

pacino wrote:you subscribing to the idea of Zionism doesn't mean that those that don't are somehow bad or don't think about the rights of Jewish persons;

More fiction. I never said anyone not believing in Zionism is bad. And you may well think about the rights of Jews but if your thoughts are confined to the notion that a secular Israel is in the long run inevitably good for Jews you should reexamine that thought in the context of the experience of Jews in seemingly secular countries such as Germany, Austria and the Soviet Union historically, especially in the 20th century.

pacino wrote:rather, integration and living together is an important long-term goal for all of the global society, including those who live in modern day Israel.

Such simplistic platitudes ignore the reality that the State of Israel was created because Jews have systematically been denied not only the rights of "integration and living together" but the very right to life. It is impossible to engage in any meaningful discussion on the subject while ignoring historical attempts to exterminate Jews and modern and continuing attempts to wipe the State of Israel off the map.

pacino wrote:have a great day my friend!!!!

Seventy years ago, under infinitely more difficult circumstances, the Arabs chose conflict over peaceful co-existence. I wish I could believe your parting line reflected your stated desire for the latter.

ya know what if these damn Palestinians today wanted a reasonable solution they should ..............invent a time machine and figure it out 75 years ago.

LOS ANGELES (AP) — A small crowd that gathered Thursday outside the Los Angeles office of U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters to counter an expected protest by a self-styled militia group burned an American flag taken from the back of a pickup truck. The incident happened after the far-right Oath Keepers group didn't appear at the office after saying it would rally against the congresswoman.

A group of counter-protesters there to support Waters were chanting "black power" and other slogans when the pickup approached. The vehicle, occupied by two men who appeared to be white, was stopped by the crowd. Some marchers opened the doors and one grabbed the flag flying on a pole in the bed of the truck, which sped off. The flag was stepped on and lit on fire as someone stoked the flames. A few people cheered and someone yelled, "This is not the American flag, this is their flag."

When will these idiots learn that they are playing right into the hands of Russublicans? This kind of shit is no more acceptable when the left does it than when the right does it.

Kimberly Guilfoyle out at FOX NEWS...Donald Trump Jr.'s girlfriend is expected to join America First, a pro-Trump Super PAC.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/us/p ... -tape.html

lmao

JUburton wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/us/politics/michael-cohen-trump-tape.html

lmao

I love that the url shortens on the screen to p...tape

FRIDAY FRIDAY

jerseyhoya wrote:

JUburton wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/us/politics/michael-cohen-trump-tape.html

lmao

I love that the url shortens on the screen to p...tape

connect the dots

if you can't trust a shady lawyer, who can ya trust

It just continues to demonstrate what we already know. The guy's a pig who cheats on every woman he's ever been married to and doesn't give a damn how what when or why. It's not a requirement for political office.

It's actually a pretty simple equation: For anything he perceives as beneficial to him he'll gladly sell out family, friends, colleagues, employees or any other member of the human race, including 300MM+ Americans.

So the simplest explanation of congress not really pursuing the Russian influence on us elections is that many members are involved. Someone posted something here to that effect on this very board a few months ago. If that person is right, there is no reason to think at least a few dems aren't on the Kremlin's payroll.

Doesn’t need to be Russian. Can be any foreign nation.