pacino wrote:seize the means to own the libs:

In order to bolster coal-fired and nuclear power plants, the Trump administration is working on a pair of federal laws to order grid operators to buy electricity from the plants.

The U.S. Department of Energy would use emergency authority to direct the operators from at-risk facilities, according to Bloomberg.

The agency also wants to develop a "Strategic Electric Generation Reserve" to promote national defense and maximize energy supplies, according to a draft National Security Council memo, Bloomberg reports.

Nuclear and coal-fired plants are struggling against renewable energy sources and cheaper natural gas.

pacino wrote:just imagine if it came out that that Obama said people cling to guns and religion; he may lose the race! nothing would save him!

Monkeyboy wrote:

pacino wrote:just imagine if it came out that that Obama said people cling to guns and religion; he may lose the race! nothing would save him!

He got less votes because of it. What's your point?

Monkeyboy wrote:

Grotewold wrote:

Bucky wrote:I agree. I think the word "Deplorables" probably won the election.

Again — zero upside. A cheap thrill for guaranteed Dem voters.

I agree. This is why I was so annoyed at Gillibrand a few weeks ago. She was at some event with other top democrat hopefuls. In the middle of her speech about women's issues, she said that we wouldn't have had a financial crisis if Lehman Bros was called Lehman Sisters. On top of being ridiculously sexist and not actually very funny, she may have lost 10-15% of the electorate with that one joke. I guarantee it will be played again and again (assuming it's on tape/video) if she's in the serious running for POTUS. It's the type of comment that cements tribalism and gains you nothing.

pacino wrote:just imagine if it came out that that Obama said people cling to guns and religion; he may lose the race! nothing would save him!

Monkeyboy wrote:

pacino wrote:just imagine if it came out that that Obama said people cling to guns and religion; he may lose the race! nothing would save him!

He got less votes because of it. What's your point?

pacino wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:

pacino wrote:just imagine if it came out that that Obama said people cling to guns and religion; he may lose the race! nothing would save him!

He got less votes because of it. What's your point?

he won anyway because he was good at campaigning and had a general message people liked.

people that lose find shit to blame and point to quotes like deplorables or lehman sisters or whatever. anyone can be made to look almost any way if you let the machine do it to you. this is why you break through in a different way and ignore that garbage.

Grotewold wrote:

pacino wrote:just imagine if it came out that that Obama said people cling to guns and religion; he may lose the race! nothing would save him!

Nobody is saying anything like this.

I take your point that the right is garbage and will always caterwaul, but every little misstep counts. Calling people #$!&@ and deplorable can only hurt.

And Hillary could have very easily still reached out to the soft Trump voters without attacking the others. It was just a cheap laugh line.

The Dude wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:

pacino wrote:just imagine if it came out that that Obama said people cling to guns and religion; he may lose the race! nothing would save him!

He got less votes because of it. What's your point?

how do you know he didn't get more?

pacino wrote:WHICH MEANS YOU SUCK!

Slowhand wrote:Yeah, but if a guy said it then he’d be a misogynist.

Aaaaand, go!

Uncle Milty wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:

pacino wrote:seize the means to own the libs:

In order to bolster coal-fired and nuclear power plants, the Trump administration is working on a pair of federal laws to order grid operators to buy electricity from the plants.

The U.S. Department of Energy would use emergency authority to direct the operators from at-risk facilities, according to Bloomberg.

The agency also wants to develop a "Strategic Electric Generation Reserve" to promote national defense and maximize energy supplies, according to a draft National Security Council memo, Bloomberg reports.

Nuclear and coal-fired plants are struggling against renewable energy sources and cheaper natural gas.

They are literally murdering people.

Nearly as many people die from the air pollution caused by coal than in automobile deaths each year. This is a significant public health issue. They going to sneak all this stuff into law while we're all focused on Trump's show.

Exactly why they don't resist him.

swishnicholson wrote:There are rude thoughts and dangerous thoughts. I get a little distressed when supposed liberals can't even identify the difference.

Slowhand wrote:Even before this whole thing happened, I was wondering the other day when “cunt” become such a terrible word, because these are the sorts of things I spend my time thinking about. It was always considered worse than “bitch”, but not by much, and people didn't gasp in horror if you said it. Now we have to refer to it as “The C word”. Now we’re having a politics thread.

Monkeyboy wrote:

Slowhand wrote:Even before this whole thing happened, I was wondering the other day when “cunt” become such a terrible word, because these are the sorts of things I spend my time thinking about. It was always considered worse than “bitch”, but not by much, and people didn't gasp in horror if you said it. Now we have to refer to it as “The C word”. Now we’re having a politics thread.

It's a very ugly-sounding word.