No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby pacino » Wed Mar 14, 2018 09:24:27

a way to prove government doesn't work is by ensuring it won't work

the military is stepping in where the state department isn't. that's not a good thing.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby thephan » Wed Mar 14, 2018 09:44:40

The Sarge wrote:Isn't that what Trump wanted though?


Bannon more so. He was the destroy the government fool.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby thephan » Wed Mar 14, 2018 09:46:09

pacino wrote:a way to prove government doesn't work is by ensuring it won't work

the military is stepping in where the state department isn't. that's not a good thing.


The military has often been a key player in shaping, and executing, in a good way, but it is rough to put the forces in charge of policy.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby Bucky » Wed Mar 14, 2018 09:52:43

think i'm gonna troll FB with trt's idea

gonna thank soros for the bus yesterday that took me out west to vote for lamb

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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby thephan » Wed Mar 14, 2018 09:55:47

Bucky wrote:think i'm gonna troll FB with trt's idea

gonna thank soros for the bus yesterday that took me out west to vote for lamb


There are articles about confused, out of district PA voters calling to try to figure out how to vote in the election. Refer to one of those.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby thephan » Wed Mar 14, 2018 09:56:35

So in the November cycle PA-18 is shattered, so this is a small advance on his ron in a different district.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby thephan » Wed Mar 14, 2018 09:59:30

Well, well, well. Official emails have surfaced about Carson and his wife picking out that furniture he knows/knew nothing about.

What idiots inhabit the swamp. Invasive species.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby thephan » Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:47:53

Fun with fact checking:

1) An unlocked iPhone of an Islamic State operative contained the contacts of several prominent world leaders, including Obama.

False

Came from 'The Daily world Update', a poor man's Onion. That did not slow it from being propagated as truth to the unwashed.

2) Lara Trump’s claim that Trump has appointed more women than any other president

True & False (this claim that Lara made the statement is true, and the facts are, of course, different)

For Women’s History Month, the administration is claiming that he’s making history. When pressed, no one will give a straight answer. The RNC, tweeted Trump appointed more women “than previous administrations.” When pressed the RNC word played by saying it was not stating that Trump was better than all previous administrations, because it exact statement is not "any other administration" “because we know that’s not true”.

All other questions were referred, by the WH, to the Trump Campaign.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:15:29

thephan wrote:
pacino wrote:a way to prove government doesn't work is by ensuring it won't work

the military is stepping in where the state department isn't. that's not a good thing.


The military has often been a key player in shaping, and executing, in a good way, but it is rough to put the forces in charge of policy.


It's also hugely expensive and not as effective. Soft power accomplishes a great deal, at a much lower price. (To be sure you need to back it up with a capable military, but the best scenario is have that capability but to use it as sparingly as possible.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby Squire » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:15:52

You'll notice that Don doesn't talk about the Stock Market much lately

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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:23:52

speaking about the military, Donnie thinks we should have a "space force"
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby thephan » Wed Mar 14, 2018 14:34:20

TCC, you forgot the word "again". this idea took a beat down previously.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby thephan » Wed Mar 14, 2018 14:39:15

While on terminal leave, just days away from his retirement, McCabe might get fired from the FBI. Just another day people.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Mar 14, 2018 15:03:57

538 thinks the blue wave could be a tsunami this November

https://twitter.com/fivethirtyeight/sta ... 72135?s=21
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby thephan » Wed Mar 14, 2018 15:22:36

Paul Ryan disagrees, unless the Democrats continue to run conservatives, in fact it really was not a Democrat victory at all because Lamb is really a Republican*. That is a big old wow, if that's what it takes for Ryan to sleep at night.

There there is the other spin that the WH and REAL NEWS over at Fox have dished up, which is that the president helped Saccone close a 6 point gap to keep it close.

The opiod crisis will have to expand at a rate you cannot even calculate for this spin to work.

* I consolidated his crazy spin down to just republican.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Mar 14, 2018 15:22:49

It's crude and hugely optimistic, but I've seen stats that say if the Dems win everywhere Trump won by 20 points or less, you're looking at something on the order of a 100 seat gain in the house, and if we continue along these foolish lines we also see Dems picking up Senate seats in places like TX. So, not likely.

But still.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Mar 14, 2018 15:25:55

thephan wrote:
There there is the other spin that the WH and REAL NEWS over at Fox have dished up, which is that the president helped Saccone close a 6 point gap to keep it close.



Well, I hope Republicans really do believe this, because if I'm right, and Trump is in fact toxic but the Rs keep running him out there in close races, then that 20 point pick up might really be true.

(I suspect that Trumps visit probably did drive up R turnout some, I strongly doubt it won any converts.)
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby thephan » Wed Mar 14, 2018 15:28:31

TenuredVulture wrote:I if we continue along these foolish lines we also see Dems picking up Senate seats in places like TX. So, not likely.


It might be worth moving to Texas to vote against Ted Cruz. I'd vote for armadillo roadkill over Lyin' Ted.
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Re: No Rose For Tillerson, His Politics Flame Extinguished

Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Mar 14, 2018 15:38:51

You know how I'm from time to time commenting about the rank idiocy of people on TV punditing about politics and economics? Well, Pres. Trump didn't seem to get the memo, because he's gone and appointed Larry Fucking Moron Kudlow to Cohn's old position on his council of economic advisors. Was Cramer not available? I guess Maria Bartiromo turned them down because she didn't want to be sexually assaulted.

Anyway, even if you do think people on TV aren't all total fucking morons (think of it in terms of sports--how would you feel if TMac was given the job of Phillies GM or manager? This is like that) Kudlow is utterly and completely unqualified for the position.

I guess it makes sense though, because Trump is similarly unqualified.
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