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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:47:48

Maxine Waters is from California and she's terrible

Not that it's appropriate for a president to attack any member of Congress like that

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby swishnicholson » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:08:21

jerseyhoya wrote:Maxine Waters is from California and she's terrible

Not that it's appropriate for a president to attack any member of Congress like that


it's funny, I had always regarded her as a clown, but I read a thoughtful interview with her a while back. Looking back on her record I don't really see any justification for that portrayal . A few statements have been misrepresented or overblown in order to make her easy to dismiss. She's partly to blame for that, but compared to the bulk of representatives she's been more committed and effective than most.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:14:27

swishnicholson wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Maxine Waters is from California and she's terrible

Not that it's appropriate for a president to attack any member of Congress like that


it's funny, I had always regarded her as a clown, but I read a thoughtful interview with her a while back. Looking back on her record I don't really see any justification for that portrayal . A few statements have been misrepresented or overblown in order to make her easy to dismiss. She's partly to blame for that, but compared to the bulk of representatives she's been more committed and effective than most.

Maxine Waters: From ‘Most Corrupt’ to Resistance Hero

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby JFLNYC » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:40:30

When CREW named Waters one of its “most corrupt” politicians in 2011, the group focused on her role in a federal bailout for OneUnited Bank, on whose board her husband served and in which he owned a sizable stake, during the 2008 banking crisis. Waters arranged a meeting with the Treasury Department at which OneUnited representatives sought federal bailout money. The bank eventually received more than $12 million from the Troubled Asset Relief Program.

That led to an ethics investigation into Waters’ involvement in setting up the meeting. Investigators eventually concluded that she had disclosed her financial ties to the bank, recused herself from decisions involving it, and believed the Treasury meeting would involve representatives from minority-owned banks generally, not just OneUnited (PDF). The Ethics Committee found that she had not violated any rules barring the use of one’s position for financial gain.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby pacino » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:53:23

Elizabeth Warren is not running for president.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:56:35

JFLNYC wrote:
When CREW named Waters one of its “most corrupt” politicians in 2011, the group focused on her role in a federal bailout for OneUnited Bank, on whose board her husband served and in which he owned a sizable stake, during the 2008 banking crisis. Waters arranged a meeting with the Treasury Department at which OneUnited representatives sought federal bailout money. The bank eventually received more than $12 million from the Troubled Asset Relief Program.

That led to an ethics investigation into Waters’ involvement in setting up the meeting. Investigators eventually concluded that she had disclosed her financial ties to the bank, recused herself from decisions involving it, and believed the Treasury meeting would involve representatives from minority-owned banks generally, not just OneUnited (PDF). The Ethics Committee found that she had not violated any rules barring the use of one’s position for financial gain.



well if she's not stupid or corrupt, then she must be a secret Muslim. You can tell by the color of her skin that something is amiss.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby Bucky » Sun Mar 11, 2018 13:01:30

pacino wrote:Elizabeth Warren is not running for president.


i guess they decided bernie is going to try again

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby thephan » Sun Mar 11, 2018 13:05:42

I don't know why I was thinking of Frederica Wilson. All the,women are enemies.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby swishnicholson » Sun Mar 11, 2018 13:08:28

jerseyhoya wrote:
swishnicholson wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Maxine Waters is from California and she's terrible

Not that it's appropriate for a president to attack any member of Congress like that


it's funny, I had always regarded her as a clown, but I read a thoughtful interview with her a while back. Looking back on her record I don't really see any justification for that portrayal . A few statements have been misrepresented or overblown in order to make her easy to dismiss. She's partly to blame for that, but compared to the bulk of representatives she's been more committed and effective than most.

Maxine Waters: From ‘Most Corrupt’ to Resistance Hero


I don't really care about her Trump rhetoric, it doesn't a take a lot to arrive at those conclusions. I just had remembered her as having said a litany of totally wacky things, about Cuba, about the CIA, about the LA riots, about Haiti-that's probably about it. All of those things turned out to be arguable, but not wacky. Not my favorite by any means, nor a hero by any means. But not "awful' or an idiot either.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Sun Mar 11, 2018 13:21:11

I'd take 10 Maxine Waters in Congress any day over 1 Nunes, or 1 David Brat, or, well, you get the point.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby pacino » Sun Mar 11, 2018 15:18:54

Bucky wrote:
pacino wrote:Elizabeth Warren is not running for president.


i guess they decided bernie is going to try again

probably; she's a good wrangler in the Senate where he's never been a heavy lifter in that respect. she's also running for re-election for the Senate this year.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby swishnicholson » Sun Mar 11, 2018 15:21:37

pacino wrote:
Bucky wrote:
pacino wrote:Elizabeth Warren is not running for president.


i guess they decided bernie is going to try again

probably; she's a good wrangler in the Senate where he's never been a heavy lifter in that respect. she's also running for re-election for the Senate this year.


Let me know when the DNC releases the name of its designated nominee.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby thephan » Sun Mar 11, 2018 20:51:59

Bucky wrote:
pacino wrote:Elizabeth Warren is not running for president.


i guess they decided bernie is going to try again


Its hard to imagine hanging your star on a 78 year old (79 at election time). Hell there will be 3 years worth of millennials who could run for president. Bernie is too old to even be a baby boomer (started in 1946).
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby meatball » Sun Mar 11, 2018 22:04:16

who talks like that? goodness.

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby The Nightman Cometh » Sun Mar 11, 2018 22:08:05

jerseyhoya wrote:https://twitter.com/smod4real/status/972977475864084480?s=19

Gary Johnson is beyond parody

My favorite Gary Johnson moment was when he went on the Joe Rogan podcast and laid out the pitfalls of correction unions being active politically and then pitched his idea for a nationwide private prison system.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby Werthless » Sun Mar 11, 2018 22:15:52

I remember Maxine waters wanting to nationalize everything in 2008/2009. I do not view her as an ideal pallbearer of the liberal agenda, even if she and I happen to both stand on the same side with respect to Trump.

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Sun Mar 11, 2018 23:13:16

pacino wrote:Elizabeth Warren is not running for president.

That's not what she said. She refused to answer direct questions about it, just reiterating that she's running for re-election to Senate, and refused to commit to serving out her term. Which basically translates to her running for president.

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby swishnicholson » Sun Mar 11, 2018 23:27:30

Werthless wrote:I remember Maxine waters wanting to nationalize everything in 2008/2009. I do not view her as an ideal pallbearer of the liberal agenda, even if she and I happen to both stand on the same side with respect to Trump.


Well, that's not really true either. She was referring to some hypothetical future in which gas prices remained exorbitantly high and oil company profits continued to soar during a back and forth. The president of Shell's affirmation that oil would probably stay around $147/bbl if they didn't have more protected fields opened to oil exploration seems more patently "wrong" than Waters mere implication that there would be more government interference with oil companies if an untenable situation continued.

As I say, I'm glad she's not my representative. But she's often portrayed as if she's from outer space, and hyperbole seems to easily attach to her. I think that has a lot more to do with her looks and manner of speaking than any actual legislation or policy positions she's been involved with.

I will agree that if the Democratic leadership is putting her forth as the "pallbearer" ( a sadly apt word choice) of the liberal agenda, then , yeah, that's pretty tone deaf.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Sun Mar 11, 2018 23:56:14

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After DeVoss interview on 60 Minutes, she should be fired tomorrow and forced to get a job doing something w/in her intellectual skill set like cleaning houses

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