Werthless wrote:

Abraham Lincoln in 1855 wrote:As a nation, we began by declaring that 'all men are created equal.' We now practically read it 'all men are created equal, except negroes.' When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.

Werthless wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:I have an almost irrational hatred of Kushner and Ivanka. I say "almost" because they are certainly worthy of the hatred. I sometimes really hate what someone is doing, but rarely do I actually hate the person. I don't even hate Donald. But there's something about this entitled couple , vomited from the bowels of two corrupt families, doing whatever they want and acting like they are too superior to ever get caught, that really makes me want to ... I don't know what, but something. I really think they are sociopaths, like for real. We're going to find out one day that he or she or both of them have done terrible things.

I actually feel bad for them at times. They've lost all of their friends in the last 2 years. Their parents have put them into positions in their organizations where they are destined to fail. And they are being ridiculed for situations -- being in over their head, being in charge of policy where they have no experience, being asked to help with a Presidential transition when an actual political professional should have been summoned -- that are difficult to navigate. Especially if, as I suspect, they do not have both the raw intelligence and emotional intelligence to evaluate when they are unqualified for something and act on it. But they may periodically think "if my dumb dad/FIL can get elected President, maybe I can help out with this..." I sometimes don't blame them for being overconfident in their own abilities.

Sometimes. Mostly, I'm just amazed that we've gotten to this place in the country.

Werthless wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:some "friends' on facebook seem to believe what he said was true. Some countries ARE shitholes, and to deny that is just liberal stupidity. I think they missed the part where he said we shouldn't take anyone from those countries.

My wife showed me a video in her feed from a Tomi Lahren wannabe who was ranting on this very message. It wouldnt surprise me if that's the same video others have seen.

Edit: We decided that the video would be a good example of logical fallacies in action. We identified the use of ad hominem, red herring and non sequiturs without even trying.

Uncle Milty wrote:Close to the national park service website so it must be...


FAKE NEWS!

Lincoln on the Know Nothing Party
August 24, 1855: Letter to Joshua F. Speed

The American or "Know Nothing Party" was an anti-immigrant political party of the 1850's.

I am not a Know-Nothing. That is certain. How could I be? How can any one who abhors the oppression of negroes, be in favor of degrading classes of white people? Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we begin by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes." When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and catholics." When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretence of loving liberty-to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocracy.

thephan wrote:I think that the confusion over intelligence, and actions are simply that everything has been served up on a platter and they are clueless. Money got Dad into an Ivy, which then got the rest of the family into the same Ivy based on that unconscionable practice of legacy admittance (over 30% of Ivy League admits are legacies). Money got the husband in, and dad bragged about buying his kids way into Harvard and NYU to gain access. Neither have ever had to work for anything while living off of questionable money, and their life lessons had to be crap. In my estimation you can save you pity for someone who deserves it, not two fast money dimwits who are unfamiliar with struggle, and worse, are pretty callas to those who are struggling.

Werthless wrote:

thephan wrote:I think that the confusion over intelligence, and actions are simply that everything has been served up on a platter and they are clueless. Money got Dad into an Ivy, which then got the rest of the family into the same Ivy based on that unconscionable practice of legacy admittance (over 30% of Ivy League admits are legacies). Money got the husband in, and dad bragged about buying his kids way into Harvard and NYU to gain access. Neither have ever had to work for anything while living off of questionable money, and their life lessons had to be crap. In my estimation you can save you pity for someone who deserves it, not two fast money dimwits who are unfamiliar with struggle, and worse, are pretty callas to those who are struggling.

Luckily, I have a nearly unlimited supply of empathy; it doesn't get depleted when I use it!

slugsrbad wrote:

Werthless wrote:

thephan wrote:I think that the confusion over intelligence, and actions are simply that everything has been served up on a platter and they are clueless. Money got Dad into an Ivy, which then got the rest of the family into the same Ivy based on that unconscionable practice of legacy admittance (over 30% of Ivy League admits are legacies). Money got the husband in, and dad bragged about buying his kids way into Harvard and NYU to gain access. Neither have ever had to work for anything while living off of questionable money, and their life lessons had to be crap. In my estimation you can save you pity for someone who deserves it, not two fast money dimwits who are unfamiliar with struggle, and worse, are pretty callas to those who are struggling.

Luckily, I have a nearly unlimited supply of empathy; it doesn't get depleted when I use it!

If your empathy is simply nearly unlimited, than wouldn't it technically get depleted?

CalvinBall wrote:Trump's weight is 239 which may be the biggest like they have ever told.

Sports Illustrated‏ @SInow
6'3" and 239 pounds

These athletes are the same size as Donald Trump http://on.si.com/2Dh8K13

CalvinBall wrote:Bannon refused to answer questions in the hearing that he was subpoenaed to speak at