Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby thephan » Sun Dec 17, 2017 20:59:55

Now we know Corker's price:

The Corker provision, which was not part of either the House or Senate tax bills, would allow the owners of large real estate holdings through LLCs to deduct a percentage of their “pass through” income from their taxes.

Pass-through businesses are companies organized as sole proprietorships, partnerships, LLCs, or S corporations that don’t pay the corporate income tax and instead are taxed at individual rates. Currently, the top tax rate for the top bracket of earners is 39.6 percent. The combined House-Senate bill allows people to deduct 20 percent of pass-through income from their taxes. (Vox’s Dylan Matthews has a full explainer on pass-throughs.)

According to the IBT report, the omnibus bill also adds in a special tax cut to LLCs with few employees and large amounts of depreciable property assets — namely, real estate, rent-generating apartments, and office buildings. Just like the kind Trump and a number of GOP lawmakers own.

IBT previously reported that the 13 GOP lawmakers sculpting the bill have between $36 million and $136 million worth of ownership stakes in real estate-related LLCs. Corker has told news outlets he didn’t know about the provision and never saw the text of the actual bill.
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby thephan » Mon Dec 18, 2017 06:26:12

Sarah Palin's son Track arrested for burglary, assault in Alaska

Liberal bias conspiracies now being accepted. Prize, a snomachine
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby traderdave » Mon Dec 18, 2017 07:51:18

thephan wrote:Now we know Corker's price:

The Corker provision, which was not part of either the House or Senate tax bills, would allow the owners of large real estate holdings through LLCs to deduct a percentage of their “pass through” income from their taxes.

Pass-through businesses are companies organized as sole proprietorships, partnerships, LLCs, or S corporations that don’t pay the corporate income tax and instead are taxed at individual rates. Currently, the top tax rate for the top bracket of earners is 39.6 percent. The combined House-Senate bill allows people to deduct 20 percent of pass-through income from their taxes. (Vox’s Dylan Matthews has a full explainer on pass-throughs.)

According to the IBT report, the omnibus bill also adds in a special tax cut to LLCs with few employees and large amounts of depreciable property assets — namely, real estate, rent-generating apartments, and office buildings. Just like the kind Trump and a number of GOP lawmakers own.

IBT previously reported that the 13 GOP lawmakers sculpting the bill have between $36 million and $136 million worth of ownership stakes in real estate-related LLCs. Corker has told news outlets he didn’t know about the provision and never saw the text of the actual bill.


He is either lying or grossly negligent. This was he comment:

"The suggestion was that it was airdropped into the conference without prior consideration by either the House or the Senate," Corker said. "Because this issue has raised concerns, I would ask that you provide an explanation of the evolution of this provision and how it made it into conference report. I think that because of many sensitivities, clarity on this issue is very important."

If he actually thinks that to be the case, he should be a No come the vote. This is why legislation, especially that which has such wide reaching impact, needs to be fully vetted and not subject to political gamesmanship and artificial deadlines.

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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby slugsrbad » Mon Dec 18, 2017 08:13:40

Donald Trump wrote:Remember, Republicans are 5-0 in Congressional Races this year. The media refuses to mention this. I said Gillespie and Moore would lose (for very different reasons), and they did. I also predicted “I” would win. Republicans will do well in 2018, very well! @foxandfriends


Someone tell this idiot that the Senate is part of Congress.
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby thephan » Mon Dec 18, 2017 08:15:54

I saw that second story with more detail including the "airdrop" thing. WTF is that? From "above"? Meaning directly from the WH?

Mean while back in St. Charles, Missouri when Trump spent all that time telling his people that the great, probably the greatest ever, tax bill would hurt him personally, seems like an other lie for his greatest hits collection. “This is going to cost me a fortune, this thing, believe me.”
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby thephan » Mon Dec 18, 2017 08:17:39

slugsrbad wrote:
Donald Trump wrote:Remember, Republicans are 5-0 in Congressional Races this year. The media refuses to mention this. I said Gillespie and Moore would lose (for very different reasons), and they did. I also predicted “I” would win. Republicans will do well in 2018, very well! @foxandfriends


Someone tell this idiot that the Senate is part of Congress.


The pains he takes to explain how he is right, even when he is grossly wrong, are impressive.
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby slugsrbad » Mon Dec 18, 2017 08:26:19

thephan wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:
Donald Trump wrote:Remember, Republicans are 5-0 in Congressional Races this year. The media refuses to mention this. I said Gillespie and Moore would lose (for very different reasons), and they did. I also predicted “I” would win. Republicans will do well in 2018, very well! @foxandfriends


Someone tell this idiot that the Senate is part of Congress.


The pains he takes to explain how he is right, even when he is grossly wrong, are impressive.


A Democrat was also elected in the California 34th’s special election (which I forgot about, but saw on Twitter).
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby pacino » Mon Dec 18, 2017 08:34:06

slugsrbad wrote:
thephan wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:
Donald Trump wrote:Remember, Republicans are 5-0 in Congressional Races this year. The media refuses to mention this. I said Gillespie and Moore would lose (for very different reasons), and they did. I also predicted “I” would win. Republicans will do well in 2018, very well! @foxandfriends


Someone tell this idiot that the Senate is part of Congress.


The pains he takes to explain how he is right, even when he is grossly wrong, are impressive.


A Democrat was also elected in the California 34th’s special election (which I forgot about, but saw on Twitter).

but that was in a foreign country, California
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby pacino » Mon Dec 18, 2017 08:35:50

Leach says the women coming out are an attack from an unnamed political opponent! I guess all the women people in Dem politics have actually known locally for years are now huge liars?

what a piece of shit
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby traderdave » Mon Dec 18, 2017 08:44:17

But then Stephanopoulos pressed Cornyn, noting that “this provision wasn't included in either the House or the Senate bill and apparently was added at the last minute. Why was that done? Why was it necessary to include that provision?” Cornyn responded: “Well, we were working very hard. It was a very intense process. As I said, the Democrats refused to participate. And what we've tried to do is cobble together the votes we needed to get this bill passed.

IOW, this was about securing votes for our self-enriching bill and if it happens to also enrich a few of our wealthiest constituents, well, that's okay too.

In a logical world, the GOP would lose seats left and right in 2018 as voters hold them accountable for their actions (and inaction) these past 18 months or so (speaking of just the Trump-related stuff). We do not, however, live in a logical world.

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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby thephan » Mon Dec 18, 2017 08:52:27

Cornyn also used the defense that the bill is really long, like 100 pages long, and complicated so some things are going to be there that people don't like, but its so big and complicated that it is impossible to know everything.

Wowzers. Who knew that effective governance would be such a challenge, looks like we need some strong leaders.
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby pacino » Mon Dec 18, 2017 09:12:30

Corker is upset that the thing that secured his vote is in the bill.
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Dec 18, 2017 09:41:31

slugsrbad wrote:
thephan wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:
Donald Trump wrote:Remember, Republicans are 5-0 in Congressional Races this year. The media refuses to mention this. I said Gillespie and Moore would lose (for very different reasons), and they did. I also predicted “I” would win. Republicans will do well in 2018, very well! @foxandfriends


Someone tell this idiot that the Senate is part of Congress.


The pains he takes to explain how he is right, even when he is grossly wrong, are impressive.


A Democrat was also elected in the California 34th’s special election (which I forgot about, but saw on Twitter).



His random quoting of words is offensive to me.

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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby thephan » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:34:09

I am taking comfort in that Buchanon, PA’s only president, its usually ranked in the bottom 5 historically, but my hope is that the Trump presidency will push him up!


LOL
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby thephan » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:34:51

pacino wrote:Corker is upset that the thing that secured his vote was discovered in the bill.


FYP
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby thephan » Mon Dec 18, 2017 13:42:07

Twitter suspends Britain First leaders as it enforces new anti-abuse rules


Where is Don going to get his material?
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby traderdave » Mon Dec 18, 2017 13:55:28

Not to worry; I think state media @foxandfriends is still alive and kicking.

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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby Phred » Mon Dec 18, 2017 14:25:24

Anybody know what the deal is with the emails that Mueller received this weekend?

It would be satisfying if emails were Donald's eventual downfall. Almost as good as if it was discovered that he was born outside the US and not a citizen.
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby thephan » Mon Dec 18, 2017 15:03:34

Not sure which deal you are looking for. Since Donald is reported to not use email, these will not be "his" personal emails (quotes for no reason just like DJT). Now if you are asking about pedigree/provenance, well that is assured as this is from government computers. Moreover, there is no exception of privacy on a government computer except if explicitly labeled privileged, so these correspondences are legitimately fair game for the special council and friends. Propaganda would have you believe otherwise, but these congressional representatives are just being paid off under the tax bill to Fox It Up with the barking dog routines.
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby thephan » Mon Dec 18, 2017 15:08:48

Roy Moore definitely should not surrender his legitimate place in Washington...

"The State Election Board of Voting Integrity said early on that ‘more than a third’ of Jones’ votes up to 11 a.m. looked suspicious — and with good reason. Many of them came from the small town of Bordalama, a rural community about 20 miles outside Birmingham.

According to official tallies, Roy Moore received 953 votes in the small town. Doug Jones received 5,327. If the disparity in numbers isn’t enough to give you reason to smell something fishy, the population of the town should. There are 2,256 residents there and only 1,867 registered voters. In other words, more people voted for Doug Jones than even live in Bordalama."


To clarify the fake state election board asserts that this is a case of upsidedown turtle in the fake town of 'lama. This was put out by a satire group, but it made its way into the world of rage with some minor editing, like deleting the source, the "Ladies of Liberty", not that red meat rabid dogs would have thought that the group, LoL, might not be perfection in a pixel.
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