Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free politics

Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby Grotewold » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:49:19

David Axelrod wrote:That Flynn pled to one count, given all his exposure, suggests he got a good deal. Question is, what did he offer prosecutors in exchange?

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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:59:28

It may be a witch hunt but it sure looks like they’re starting to find some witches.
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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby pacino » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:04:46

I bet he offered them Kushner.
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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby traderdave » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:05:44

thephan wrote:Chuck Grassley is an idiot. His explanation about his position on the tax plan is definitionally stupid listen

Generally, the money comes and that’s good. Always those unknown unknowns that are all going to work out. His estate task discussion is flat out idiotic.


"GRASSLEY: I suppose to show appreciation for people that have lived frugally early in their life, delayed spending so they could save. It seems to me there ought to be some incentive and reward for those who work and save and invest in America as opposed to those who just live from day to day. You could take the same hundred-thousand-dollar income for two people - one of them, they spend it, have it all spent at the end of the year and the others have saved a fourth of it and invested and create jobs and leave something for the future. The first person leaves nothing for the future.

SIEGEL: But very, very few couples that make a combined income of $100,000 are going to have estates of $20 million that they pass on. I mean, that's a tiny fraction of people.

GRASSLEY: Listen, in no way is my statement meant to dispute the statistics you gave me. I'm giving you a philosophical reason for recognizing savings versus those who want to live high on the hog and not save anything or invest in the commodities."

I'd like to get this mother fucker in a room for 10 minutes.

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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby pacino » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:11:22

Call your senator; let's hope this tax bill falls apart. They have other stuff they have to do, like literally keep the government open and a dream bill.
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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby thephan » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:37:24

traderdave wrote:
thephan wrote:Chuck Grassley is an idiot. His explanation about his position on the tax plan is definitionally stupid listen

Generally, the money comes and that’s good. Always those unknown unknowns that are all going to work out. His estate task discussion is flat out idiotic.


"GRASSLEY: I suppose to show appreciation for people that have lived frugally early in their life, delayed spending so they could save. It seems to me there ought to be some incentive and reward for those who work and save and invest in America as opposed to those who just live from day to day. You could take the same hundred-thousand-dollar income for two people - one of them, they spend it, have it all spent at the end of the year and the others have saved a fourth of it and invested and create jobs and leave something for the future. The first person leaves nothing for the future.

SIEGEL: But very, very few couples that make a combined income of $100,000 are going to have estates of $20 million that they pass on. I mean, that's a tiny fraction of people.

GRASSLEY: Listen, in no way is my statement meant to dispute the statistics you gave me. I'm giving you a philosophical reason for recognizing savings versus those who want to live high on the hog and not save anything or invest in the commodities."

I'd like to get this mother #$!&@ in a room for 10 minutes.


I was so pissedoff when I heard him I could not bring myself to do much more then post the link. When he was doing that bit about the estate tax I actually smacked my steering wheel, blowing mu horn briefly while waiting for a light to change in rush hours traffic. So my frustration was met by an equal, opposite, and perhaps slightly superior force of people I then annoyed (sort of a physical manifestation of my BSG role).
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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby pacino » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:02:59

After Manfort got arrested was the time when Flynn sought to plead in order to save his son from prosecution
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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby Grotewold » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:04:42

pacino wrote:a dream bill.


probably written by Freddy Krueger

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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby pacino » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:09:59

Flynn is going to testify Trump told him to contact the Russian ambassador about the sanctions

This will tie Trump to Flynn so the administration won't be able to say Flynn acted alone.

This is probably why Mueller isn't bothering with the Turkish stuff. LOOKING FOR BIGGER FISH
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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby Bucky » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:20:26

are you sourcing or spitballing

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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby pacino » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:23:31

From ABC News' Brian Ross, who is well sourced.
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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby traderdave » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:24:42

These people really do live in their own fucking world of lies, denials and deceit:

One person familiar with the mood in the West Wing insists top White House officials are actually breathing a sigh of relief today. People in the building are very happy,” the source said. “This doesn’t lead back to Trump in any way, shape or form.”

The source noted that Flynn is being charged for making false statements, but not for any improper actions during the campaign.

“This is a further indication that there’s nothing there,” the source said. “This is a win for the White House.” A source with knowledge of the legal team’s thinking tells CNN the Flynn plea “is not going to be a problem” for the President, though it could be a problem for people who worked with Flynn. The source said legal exposure for others would depend on what they may have said to the Special Counsel.


Uh, weren't his lies to the FBI exactly about his actions during the campaign?

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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby thephan » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:33:02

cherry picked from PolitiFActThe obvious lie that Trump would not benefit from the tax changes has a model. Based on the only return anyone has access to, applying what is known about the plan, Trump would have save ~22.5M on his 2005 taxes under the proposed code through elimination of the AMT. When you mix in the the lowering of the pass-through tax rate that would put him at $42 million better off.
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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:36:01

traderdave wrote:These people really do live in their own #$!&@ world of lies, denials and deceit:

One person familiar with the mood in the West Wing insists top White House officials are actually breathing a sigh of relief today. People in the building are very happy,” the source said. “This doesn’t lead back to Trump in any way, shape or form.”

The source noted that Flynn is being charged for making false statements, but not for any improper actions during the campaign.

“This is a further indication that there’s nothing there,” the source said. “This is a win for the White House.” A source with knowledge of the legal team’s thinking tells CNN the Flynn plea “is not going to be a problem” for the President, though it could be a problem for people who worked with Flynn. The source said legal exposure for others would depend on what they may have said to the Special Counsel.


Uh, weren't his lies to the FBI exactly about his actions during the campaign?

I'm 110% positive that Trump honestly doesn't believe that he did anything wrong. Either because he's too stupid or has been involved in scummy land deals for so long he doesn't understand that the rest of the world (esp. the public sector) isn't supposed to work that way.

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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby Squire » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:39:24

pacino wrote:Flynn is going to testify Trump told him to contact the Russian ambassador about the sanctions

This will tie Trump to Flynn so the administration won't be able to say Flynn acted alone.

This is probably why Mueller isn't bothering with the Turkish stuff. LOOKING FOR BIGGER FISH



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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby Woody » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:44:10

Mueller comin
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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby thephan » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:51:59

F Mueller, my GD 401K is being messed with by these monkeys (it only goes up darn it).
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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby slugsrbad » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:52:04

Too lazy to quote the tweet, but Trump once again insisting that the reason Dems are not along w/ the bill is because it's so good that they're jealous they won't get credit. It's hard to tell the times he's being petty, delusional, or ignorant.
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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby Woody » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:52:09

So they're saying he'll testify that "Transition Officials" directed him to speak with Russian contacts. It would seem that implicates Pence as well? Since he, you know, was THE transition official...

He knew damn well what Flynn was all about before they put him in as NSA
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Re: Pocahontas, pedos, polls, prosecutors, and pun-free poli

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:53:27

thephan wrote:cherry picked from PolitiFActThe obvious lie that Trump would not benefit from the tax changes has a model. Based on the only return anyone has access to, applying what is known about the plan, Trump would have save ~22.5M on his 2005 taxes under the proposed code through elimination of the AMT. When you mix in the the lowering of the pass-through tax rate that would put him at $42 million better off.


Not to mention the $1B+ his spawn will save in estate taxes.
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