It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby thephan » Mon Nov 20, 2017 14:30:00

I forgot to post my comments yesterday about right wing groups moving in, some times starting up, with a focus of filling up the schedule at Mar-a-lago. Trumpettes USA is run by a club member, a first time Pat Robertson thing started just to have something at the club, a bunch of little GOP minor players all putting up coin that they expect will mostly go to Trump enterprises. That sounds an awful lot like a problem on about a dozen vectors.


Raw story that sums up the WaPo Sunday piece.
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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby thephan » Mon Nov 20, 2017 14:39:18

Four sources claim they overheard one of Trump’s most trusted advisers confide to CEO Safra Catz — who was under consideration for a job in the administration — that his boss was both an “idiot” and a dope,” adding that Trump with the smarts of a “kindergartner.”

A separate source also claimed McMaster disparaged Trump in a private conversation, saying he didn’t have the intellectual firepower to understand national security issues.


Long form Buzzfeed

Warning, this new report is apparently from summer. I though it might be good to add that.
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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Nov 20, 2017 14:40:39

could be a plant from bannon and co to make trump mad at mcmaster

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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby pacino » Mon Nov 20, 2017 15:00:13

the Panama scam the Trump Org benefited from

MSNBC had an hour special on this on Friday. It was very good. they're con artists that willingly wash money for criminals through various real estate properties that they either directly own or loan their name to.
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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby thephan » Mon Nov 20, 2017 15:06:44

I can hardly believe it... oh, the corrupt Trump family, not the president Trump family... sorry, I confused the two.

Of course there is an air of plausible deniability to it all. Merely coincidental, and totally circumstantial.

You can laugh that Trump property has 666 units.
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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby thephan » Mon Nov 20, 2017 15:09:38

I walked by a TV that had Fox News on it earlier and there was actually a discussion about Trump going too far with his attacks on the media. Seriously. No cheer leading his fake news agenda, saying he is right, or whatever. I walked back past and the panel has not caught fire and melted (still tuned to Fox).
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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby slugsrbad » Mon Nov 20, 2017 15:21:45

FoxNews also tweeted out a We Report, You Decide on whether or not the moon landing was fake.

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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby thephan » Mon Nov 20, 2017 15:41:51

A little local news from the DC suburbs:

At 11 a.m. November 20, a male suspect entered the Rite Aid located in the 46000 block of Cedar Lake Plaza and handed the pharmacist a note which implied he had a gun. The note demanded prescription medication. The suspect left empty-handed. Shortly after 12 p.m., it is believed the same male suspect entered the CVS located in the 400 block of Enterprise Street. He again handed the pharmacist a note implying he had a gun and demanded prescription narcotic medications. The suspect was given prescription medication before fleeing.

The suspect is described as a white male and was wearing a white hooded sweatshirt with black strips, a red baseball hat with a “Make America Great Again” emblem, sunglasses, black pants and black shoes.


Nowhere is really safe from the opiod crisis.
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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby curveball » Mon Nov 20, 2017 15:44:32

Aren't there mirrors on the moon placed there by the astronauts that scientists bounce lasers beams off of?..................I forgot who were dealing with.

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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby thephan » Mon Nov 20, 2017 15:47:48

I need to find a story written by Astead Herndon of the Boston Globe. He was being interviewed, and the story he wrote is about the evangelical support for Moore. The story, and some quotes he gave, are flat out bonkers. I need to see it myself before I go on about the report about his reporting.

Found it

None of the nearly 10 pastors reached by phone said the allegations of sexual misconduct changed their views about Moore. Several said the allegations made them more proud to vote for the former judge.


“I don’t know how much these women are getting paid, but I can only believe they’re getting a healthy sum,” said pastor Earl Wise, a Moore supporter from Millbrook, Ala.

Wise said he would support Moore even if the allegations were true and the candidate was proved to have sexually molested teenage girls and women.

“There ought to be a statute of limitations on this stuff,” Wise said. “How these gals came up with this, I don’t know. They must have had some sweet dreams somewhere down the line.

“Plus,” he added, “there are some 14-year-olds, who, the way they look, could pass for 20.”


“This is really a case of the ends justifying the means for them,” Kruse said. “It no longer matters about the personal characteristics of the leader anymore.”


Kruse clearly has no idea who Machiavelli is, nor what this actually refereed to.

Raddish, who leads multiple Baptist ministries throughout the South and has previously been involved in Alabama politics, said there is no proof to the allegations against Moore.

“What we’re doing now is just convicting people and executing them, lynching them in the public square over allegations,” Raddish said. “We have the greatest judicial system in the entire world . . . but we’re acting like China and Russia right now.”

He invoked several racial terms throughout the interview. In addition to saying Moore was being lynched, Raddish said the Republicans who were turning on Moore were just “political field hands picking cotton on the Democratic plantation.”

“John McCain is the overseer,” he said. “Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan and the rest of them are the political field hands.”


Alabama people.
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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby Monkeyboy » Mon Nov 20, 2017 16:59:41

thephan wrote:
Four sources claim they overheard one of Trump’s most trusted advisers confide to CEO Safra Catz — who was under consideration for a job in the administration — that his boss was both an “idiot” and a dope,” adding that Trump with the smarts of a “kindergartner.”

A separate source also claimed McMaster disparaged Trump in a private conversation, saying he didn’t have the intellectual firepower to understand national security issues.


Long form Buzzfeed

Warning, this new report is apparently from summer. I though it might be good to add that.



Could be an attempt to get rid of McMaster....

H.R. McMaster called President Trump an “idiot” and a “dope” in a private dinner with Oracle CEO Safra Catz. McMaster also criticized Steve Bannon, Rex Tillerson and said presidential son-in-law Jared Kushner has no business being involved in national security issues at all. According to Buzzfeed, Catz told one source “[the conversation was so inappropriate that it was jaw-dropping.”

Now, let’s stipulate that the President is a dope, many of his top aides are dopes and Jared Kushner has no business being in any position in government at all.

But there’s a detail here that seems pretty germane to understanding the story.

McMaster was brought in to clean up the Mike Flynn mess and over time he fired most or maybe now all the Flynn loyalists as his power in the job grew. Public reports suggest that his biggest and most consistent antagonist was a Flynn protege named Ezra Cohen-Watnick, a guy who seems to have worked with Rep. Devin Nunes in Nunes’ ‘unmasking’ escapade. McMaster tried to fire him shortly after he took over from Flynn but was blocked by Kushner and Bannon.

Finally, in early August, McMaster canned Cohen-Watnick.

So where did Cohen-Watnick land after finally getting bounced from the National Security Council? Funny you’d ask! He went to work in the DC office of Oracle.


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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby pacino » Mon Nov 20, 2017 18:37:33

Please call your PA state House rep to make sure they support House bill 1401 to tax natural gas the way other states do (severance tax)
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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby traderdave » Mon Nov 20, 2017 18:51:04

KAC on Roy Moore last Thursday:

“Whatever the facts end up being, the premise, of course, the principle, the incontrovertible principle, is that there is no Senate seat worth more than a child,” Conway told host Kilmeade. “And we all want to put that forward.”

KAC on Roy Moore this morning:

“Doug Jones in Alabama, folks, don’t be fooled,” she said. “He will be a vote against tax cuts. He is weak on crime. Weak on borders. He’s strong on raising your taxes. He is terrible for property owners. And Doug Jones is a doctrinaire liberal, which is why he’s not saying anything and why the media are trying to boost him.”

“So vote Roy Moore?” host Brian Kilmeade countered.

After a beat, Conway replied, “I’m telling you that we want the votes in the Senate to get this tax bill through.” She added that, “if the media were really concerned about all of these allegations”, senators like Al Franken, who was recently accused of groping two women, and Bob Menendez, whose corruption case recently ended in a mistrial, would no longer have their jobs on Capitol Hill.




I guess children aren't really THAT important.

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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby thephan » Mon Nov 20, 2017 20:13:43

The Boston Globe article that I posted the link to kind of sums it up. Republican votes super outweigh any morel obligation. The supposed party of values, only has one value it would seem.
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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby thephan » Mon Nov 20, 2017 20:16:34

Sad Sarah dingleberry Sanders Had Each reporter apparently provide something they were thankful for prior to them asking a question. That is ridiculous. We're not talking about second graders being taught buy a substitute teacher, we're talking about professionals. Honestly, not a single one of them should have participated. It seems rather clear that it was a ploy 2 embarrassed the reporters, while exerting a position of authority. Perhaps that should have been misplaced Authority. What a tragically disgusting pile of people are inheriting the swamp at the moment.
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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby slugsrbad » Mon Nov 20, 2017 22:03:56

Just learned, but not surprised, that Toomey is the chief architect of the Senate tax bill.
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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby pacino » Mon Nov 20, 2017 22:24:09

Who'd a think it that the president of the Club for Growth would engineer a tax bill entirely for big corporations and the super rich.
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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Nov 20, 2017 23:25:03

She Said That A Powerful Congressman Harassed Her. Here’s Why You Didn’t Hear Her Story. - John Conyers becomes the next name

The story is upsetting for what the woman had to go through, and the ridiculous process Congress has put in place to protect itself. Amazing in a repulsive way that our elected representatives can pay to cover these things up with taxpayer dollars. And mind boggling because Mike effing Cernovich, lunatic men's rights/Trumpy guy, apparently broke the story.

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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Nov 20, 2017 23:48:40

I guess Pelosi has to strip Conyers of his Ranking Member status on Judiciary. Would imagine he's too proud/stubborn/old and will just say he won't run for re-election rather than resign, though the story seems to imply there's more behind the curtain for him.

How leadership deals with each new story - and how much pressure they're able to exert on members who aren't fully on board with self flagellation - is gonna be interesting.

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Re: It's arraigning men- Hallelujah! (politics)

Postby thephan » Tue Nov 21, 2017 06:34:37

#BoycottStarbucks The cup is gay! No really. There was a sarcastic article on Buzzfeed that the two hands clasping are lesbians. FoxNews twists it to fact of a liberal agenda of LGTBQ getting served one cup at a time while the liberals laugh, then magically a movement is born.
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