Doll Is Mine wrote:

Werthless wrote:Conversation I had yesterday with my 5 year old son...

Me: I just got back from voting.
Son: For President?
Me: No, for local government jobs. Like judges.
Son: Trump is the President, right?
Me: Yes.
Son: And he's a bad President, isn't he?
Me: Where did you hear that?
Son: At school. He's not very good, is he?
Me: Some people think he's doing a good job, but more people think he's not.


He seemed absolutely convinced that Trump is horrible, and while I declined to confirm it for him, he probably suspects I would have corrected him if I liked Trump.

No offense but you normalized Trump to your 5-year old son. Good job.

Nah, werthless did good parenting. His son now thinks he knows something (and he does) w.o his parent just telling him it is so. He's learning to make his own opinions. He also doesn't just view werthless as the guy that tells him how to think and behave, but slowly is starting to see him as an individual.

Doll Is Mine wrote:

Werthless wrote:Conversation I had yesterday with my 5 year old son...

Me: I just got back from voting.
Son: For President?
Me: No, for local government jobs. Like judges.
Son: Trump is the President, right?
Me: Yes.
Son: And he's a bad President, isn't he?
Me: Where did you hear that?
Son: At school. He's not very good, is he?
Me: Some people think he's doing a good job, but more people think he's not.


He seemed absolutely convinced that Trump is horrible, and while I declined to confirm it for him, he probably suspects I would have corrected him if I liked Trump.

No offense but you normalized Trump to your 5-year old son. Good job.

If this is the most damning and scarring conversation I ever have with my son, I will have done a better parenting job than I could hope for.

Werthless wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:

Werthless wrote:Conversation I had yesterday with my 5 year old son...

Me: I just got back from voting.
Son: For President?
Me: No, for local government jobs. Like judges.
Son: Trump is the President, right?
Me: Yes.
Son: And he's a bad President, isn't he?
Me: Where did you hear that?
Son: At school. He's not very good, is he?
Me: Some people think he's doing a good job, but more people think he's not.


He seemed absolutely convinced that Trump is horrible, and while I declined to confirm it for him, he probably suspects I would have corrected him if I liked Trump.

No offense but you normalized Trump to your 5-year old son. Good job.

If this is the most damning and scarring conversation I ever have with my son, I will have done a better parenting job than I could hope for.

This brings back memories of those "serious" conversations I had with my dad, all of which were different levels of awkward. Unfortunately, because of my confusion about my sexuality as a child and later teen, I was never comfortable in one-on-one situations with older men.

It looks like you have a much more comfortable relationship with your son.

pacino wrote:

Doll Is Mine wrote:

Werthless wrote:Conversation I had yesterday with my 5 year old son...

Me: I just got back from voting.
Son: For President?
Me: No, for local government jobs. Like judges.
Son: Trump is the President, right?
Me: Yes.
Son: And he's a bad President, isn't he?
Me: Where did you hear that?
Son: At school. He's not very good, is he?
Me: Some people think he's doing a good job, but more people think he's not.


He seemed absolutely convinced that Trump is horrible, and while I declined to confirm it for him, he probably suspects I would have corrected him if I liked Trump.

No offense but you normalized Trump to your 5-year old son. Good job.

Nah, werthless did good parenting. His son now thinks he knows something (and he does) w.o his parent just telling him it is so. He's learning to make his own opinions. He also doesn't just view werthless as the guy that tells him how to think and behave, but slowly is starting to see him as an individual.

Yeah this is pretty much exactly how you handle it. It's hard for little kids to immediately understand anything other than "good guy" and "bad guy," so you have to reinforce the idea that people have different perspective on things whenever possible.

Dragging this from the other thread this morning:

thephan wrote:Well, the VA recounts with the races too close to call will be very interesting. There was approximately no way for the Dems to wrestle away the GOP control of the state senate coming in... but now it is two seats?!? I paid exactly zero attention to any race that was not in my back yard.

I honestly heard none of the Danica Reom story before I woke and heard that VA has the first transgender representative in any state. It has flown below the radar in local news, unless you were looking I assume. They mentioned Roem's platform of fixing route 28 traffic so I knew she was not too far from me, and immediately wrote off Prince Williams/Mo'nasty, but there it was. If people are freaking out that good old reliable (not so much lately) red Loudoun and all its rich people (we have the richest county in the US many years running... those vintner's and their uber rich friends rule us from the west) went insanely for Northam (bigger then Obama or Hillary), then Manassas going trans is incomprehensible. Manassas going blue should be setting off air raid sirens, especially since it is the operating base of horrible human, and Trump guiding light Corey Stewart.

So, back to the original point, those too close to call races just might flip the General Assembly. It might happen.

The Roem/Marshall race was always going to be tight this year. I'm surprised that it was under the radar for you... it was definitely as high profile as a House of Delegates race ever gets, which isn't saying very much.

The House of Delegates right now is sitting 51-49 with four races (3 lead by GOP, 1 lead by Dem) too close to call. One race (HD94) has a current margin of 12 votes--it's highly likely that race flips on a recount (Dems nearly always pick up votes in recounts on optical scan systems here in VA), so the most probable outcome is a 50-50 House.

The VA Senate is and will continue to be 21-19. The entire Senate is up for reelection in 2019, so that won't change for now absent a resignation. That being said, there's a non-zero chance that a Republican senator in a vulnerable district might take a sweetheart offer from Northam to serve as an ABC Commissioner, agency head, or the like, causing a special election. That is far from unheard of here, although there aren't a ton of Senators who'd fit that profile.

That being said, this GA session is going to be a circus. I can't wait. The only downside is that it's a budget session (we have a two-year budget cycle), so there's a decent chance they'll need to go into a special session (i.e., overtime) to get their business done.

thephan wrote:I don't have time to dig in, but there are still 5 ties in VA this looks like. I am not certain about the meaning of the lighter shade in the ties, except that it is not indicating the incumbent. NYT results tracker One is a 49-49 split.

Part of the answer:

Four other races were so close that they qualify for a recount, and the outcome will determine control of the chamber. The results marked the most sweeping shift in control of the legislature since Reconstruction.

Could be days, if not a week or more.

Democrats snared at least 15 seats in an upset that stunned members of both parties and arrived with national implications.

That is a +1 from this morning.

Don't look at the NYT coverage of a VA race. They don't know shit. They still have Dawn Adams as an uncertain winner over Loupassi, but he conceded on Election Night, and I haven't heard anything about him withdrawing that concession. She's winning by 300+ votes--that's a tough margin to overcome on a HD recount. That race is over, even with an automatic recount.

Your best options are VPAP.org or simply following people like Ben Tribbett (@notlarrysabato) and Julie Carey from NBC4 on Twitter. Dave Wasserman will dig deep on the recounts too--he loves that shit.

Honestly, I use a combination of our Dept. of Elections website and Twitter, and I'm typically more informed than 99% of reporters covering this stuff. Most of them have no idea what's going on and are just reacting to Elections' data or press releases.

Virginia's state election website resources + VPAP might be the best in the country.

Transitioning between VA and NJ returns last night was like going from 2017 to 1997.

jerseyhoya wrote:Virginia's state election website resources + VPAP might be the best in the country.

Transitioning between VA and NJ returns last night was like going from 2017 to 1997.

Thanks man. I've never played in NJ's data, but I know from last year that there are many really bad states out there. The Michigan site in particular was horrific.

VA Elections worked really hard on its site relaunch a few years back, and it shows. We also put a ton of focus on ensuring accessibility during this cycle after we had an outage last year during registration that caused quite a bit of embarrassment.

Honestly (and I'm not just saying this because I work for VA's IT agency), we have some really goddamn good websites in general. Our DMV site is incredible compared to other states.

On US - China trade:

Donald Trump wrote:I don't blame China. Who can blame a country for being able to take advantage of another country for benefit if their citizens? I give China great credit.

Repub's tax plan will have 1 in 4 tax payers paying more taxes than the present at the end of the first 10 years.

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
The Roem/Marshall race was always going to be tight this year. I'm surprised that it was under the radar for you... it was definitely as high profile as a House of Delegates race ever gets, which isn't saying very much.

I live in the 87th, so my focus is in getting John Bell to do something. I guess it is hard between representing the enemy northern part of the state, and being a freshman, but the only things he managed to get through where honorarium votes. If he was not running against Subba Kolla, he might have been tossed. Kolla was something between uninspiring and shit show, except for speaking to a very large minority population in the district.

any good sites that have which PA house seats will be competitive?

friend did a write in for Kennett council. did not win bc there were four listed dems on the ballot already, even though one is a secret republican apparently. anyways, the people helping with that campaign said he should run for pa-160 which is held by stephen barrar. was curious to just do some research on it.

Florida Realtors estimates that proposed changes to mortgage interest deduction will cause home values to fall 13% with the typical homeowner losing $21,900 in value. And that doesn’t even take into account the increase in income taxes paid.

This proposed tax plan is nothing more than a breathtaking, thinly-veiled attempt to transfer an unprecedented amount of wealth from the 99.9% to the 0.1%

the first step is getting someone to run against him. The last time it was an independent that did nothing. It looks like he's had several unopposed races in his history. Dude ran unopposed in 2008! Whoever runs against him is going to have an uphill battle due to the history of fundraising. I'm surprised to see he's only on three committees. You'd think being there for 20 years he'd be more involved.

160th District: CHESTER and DELAWARE Counties. Part of CHESTER County consisting of the TOWNSHIPS of Kennett, Pennsbury and Pocopson and the BOROUGH of Kennett Square and Part of DELAWARE County consisting of the TOWNSHIPS of Bethel, Chadds Ford, Concord and Upper Chichester (PART, Wards 01 [PART, Division 01], and 05).Total population: 63,331

I like Decision Desk HQ but it's national, I'm sure jh knows of a PA site? Election returns for PA isn't great but it's the official one

here's a Chester County precinct map that can be played with; Delco has one by town for this most recent election.

from what I can tell it's a solid R district, especially in the Delaware County portions. The Chester areas are pretty split based on the recent votes. It'll never change if someone doesn't run, and if there's any time to run it'd be 2018.

Wouldn't be surprised if daily kos has some diaries on it. They also have prez vote by ld for most states. Should give you an idea of what seats could be competitive.

Charges Dropped Against Woman Who Laughed During Sessions Hearing

Seems like this just slid by yesterday. It was silly anyway.

jerseyhoya wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if daily kos has some diaries on it. They also have prez vote by ld for most states. Should give you an idea of what seats could be competitive.

they have a lot of stuff on that site

Stephen wolf is usually pretty good after the fact with creating good maps

the guy that thought Phoenixville could start using drug rabbits to sniff out drugs lost:

Peter Urscheler easily won the three-way race for mayor, collecting 1,350 votes to Republican Dave Gautreau’s 766 and the 245 votes won by Green Party candidate Nate Craig. Incumbent Mayor Michael Speck did not seek re-election

and the guy that wanted West Chester to 'Trust the Progress' got rocked:

WEST CHESTER >> Energy efficiency consultant Dianne Herrin overwhelmingly defeated Realtor Tommy Ciccarone Jr. in Tuesday’s election and will become the borough’s next mayor.

With all but one precinct counted, Herrin, a Democrat, collected 1,863 votes, or 72 percent of the vote, while Republican Ciccarone finished with a tally of 700 votes for 27 percent.

pacino wrote:the guy that thought Phoenixville could start using drug rabbits to sniff out drugs lost:

Peter Urscheler easily won the three-way race for mayor, collecting 1,350 votes to Republican Dave Gautreau’s 766 and the 245 votes won by Green Party candidate Nate Craig. Incumbent Mayor Michael Speck did not seek re-election

and the guy that wanted West Chester to 'Trust the Progress' got rocked:

WEST CHESTER >> Energy efficiency consultant Dianne Herrin overwhelmingly defeated Realtor Tommy Ciccarone Jr. in Tuesday’s election and will become the borough’s next mayor.

With all but one precinct counted, Herrin, a Democrat, collected 1,863 votes, or 72 percent of the vote, while Republican Ciccarone finished with a tally of 700 votes for 27 percent.

Ciccarone must have spent so much money too. He had a ton of signs and a fancy website.

Really strange. You do nothing as the Mayor of West Chester except oversee the police department. Not sure why he thought he had a chance. The borough is a liberal haven at this point.

some people like to call themselves Mayor