...PPP!!...Politics.Plus.Poll...What a relief!!!

If the 2020 Presidential election were tommorrow who would you vote for?

Trump
2
4%
Democratic Challenger no matter who
39
81%
Other
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15%
 
Total votes : 48

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Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Oct 04, 2017 08:53:06

Per NBC Tillerson almost resigned in July and called Trump a moron. Pence talked him into staying and helped with interactions between Trump and the state department
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Unread postby Werthless » Wed Oct 04, 2017 08:54:29

Mark Cuban considering a run for President in 2020. Said he's only about 10% to run, but considering it (and trying to convince his wife that it's a good idea).

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Unread postby pacino » Wed Oct 04, 2017 08:55:50

please don't, Mark
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Unread postby JUburton » Wed Oct 04, 2017 08:57:53

MARK V MARK, SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT

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Unread postby JUburton » Wed Oct 04, 2017 09:20:01

i generally like the crooked media guys but wearing their own merch 100% of the time is a bad look. we get it, you sell shirts.

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Unread postby pacino » Wed Oct 04, 2017 09:25:43

Maybe Stolnis is consulting for them
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Unread postby Youseff » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:02:39

anyone point out that Paul Ryan's solution to gun violence is better treatment of mental illness, and his solution to mental illness is to rob millions of people of the opportunity to have affordable healthcare? great instinct on this guy. I hope he dumbs his way to the bottom of a ravine.
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Unread postby Monkeyboy » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:13:50

99% sure Ryan is involved in this russia stuff or at least helped to cover it up. You know, because they are family.
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Unread postby Soren » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:20:09

Youseff wrote:anyone point out that Paul Ryan's solution to gun violence is better treatment of mental illness, and his solution to mental illness is to rob millions of people of the opportunity to have affordable healthcare? great instinct on this guy. I hope he dumbs his way to the bottom of a ravine.


he's a fantastic leader, brilliant person, dashingly handsome, reads the fountainhead every night and the bible every morning.
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Unread postby slugsrbad » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:19:47

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Per NBC Tillerson almost resigned in July and called Trump a moron. Pence talked him into staying and helped with interactions between Trump and the state department


new reports are that he called him a fucking moron
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Unread postby JUburton » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:23:12

Tillerson also pointedly did not refute the report that he called trump a moron. Definitely happened.

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Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:26:09

I have to agree with Tillerson on this
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Unread postby pacino » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:29:49

prisons in Pennsylvania are terrible, says Norwegian prison warden

the comments section at philly.com disagrees
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Unread postby Youseff » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:49:18

pacino wrote:
WASHINGTON — The Senate has confirmed President Donald Trump's nominee to serve as chairman of the Federal Communications Commission despite Democratic complaints that Ajit Pai will undermine net neutrality.

The vote was 52-41 on Monday for Pai, who has served as a commissioner at the FCC since 2012.

The nomination turned into a proxy fight over Obama-era net neutrality rules established in 2015. Those rules mean service providers such as Verizon, AT&T and Comcast must treat all content the same and not favor their own websites and apps over others, such as a movie streaming service. Pai has tried to roll the rules back, drawing more than 22 million comments and ire from Democrats.

Four Democrats joined Republicans in backing the nomination — Sens. Claire McCaskill of Missouri, Gary Peters of Michigan, Jon Tester of Montana and Joe Manchin of West Virginia.

sigh

all Rs voted yay. 7 no shows.


I have no delusions of for the people type justice from anyone in this admin, but I think the FCC should do something about twitter & to a slightly lesser extent FB knowingly having hundreds of thousands of burner accounts that are purely used to influence false narratives.
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Unread postby thephan » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:19:29

I'm taking the summary at face value about Junior and Ivanka, but I'm curious why there's a story about something that almost happened to them and why there weren't charges. When I get more time I guess I'll read the story and see. If it's just a smokescreen about something that sort of might have kinda happened but not really, please spare me the pain of reading the article.
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Unread postby traderdave » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:32:44

thephan wrote:I'm taking the summary at face value about Junior and Ivanka, but I'm curious why there's a story about something that almost happened to them and why there weren't charges. When I get more time I guess I'll read the story and see. If it's just a smokescreen about something that sort of might have kinda happened but not really, please spare me the pain of reading the article.


This bit might wrap it up for you (bottom line - Daddy got his personal lawyer involved, they paid-off the Manhattan DA and the case disappeared):

In 2010, when the Major Economic Crimes Bureau of the D.A.’s office opened an investigation of the siblings, the Trump Organization had hired several top New York criminal defense lawyers to represent Donald Jr. and Ivanka. These attorneys had met with prosecutors in the bureau several times. They conceded that their clients had made exaggerated claims, but argued that the overstatements didn’t amount to criminal misconduct. Still, the case dragged on. In a meeting with the defense team, Donald Trump, Sr., expressed frustration that the investigation had not been closed. Soon after, his longtime personal lawyer, Marc Kasowitz entered the case.

Kasowitz, who by then had been the elder Donald Trump’s attorney for a decade, is primarily a civil litigator with little experience in criminal matters. But in 2012, Kasowitz donated $25,000 to the reelection campaign of Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr., making Kasowitz one of Vance’s largest donors. Kasowitz decided to bypass the lower level prosecutors and went directly to Vance to ask that the investigation be dropped.

On May 16, 2012, Kasowitz visited Vance’s office at One Hogan Place in downtown Manhattan — a faded edifice made famous by the television show, “Law & Order.” Dan Alonso, the chief assistant district attorney, and Adam Kaufmann, the chief of the investigative division, were also at the meeting, but no one from the Major Economic Crimes Bureau attended. Kasowitz did not introduce any new arguments or facts during his session. He simply repeated the arguments that the other defense lawyers had been making for months.

Ultimately, Vance overruled his own prosecutors. Three months after the meeting, he told them to drop the case. Kasowitz subsequently boasted to colleagues about representing the Trump children, according to two people. He said that the case was “really dangerous,” one person said, and that it was “amazing I got them off.” (Kasowitz denied making such a statement.)

Vance defended his decision. “I did not at the time believe beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime had been committed,” he told us. “I had to make a call and I made the call, and I think I made the right call.”

Just before the 2012 meeting, Vance’s campaign had returned Kasowitz’s $25,000 contribution, in keeping with what Vance describes as standard practice when a donor has a case before his office. Kasowitz “had no influence and his contributions had no influence whatsoever on my decision-making in the case,” Vance said.

But less than six months after the D.A.’s office dropped the case, Kasowitz made an even larger donation to Vance’s campaign, and helped raise more from others — eventually, a total of more than $50,000. After being asked about these donations as part of the reporting for this article — more than four years after the fact — Vance said he now plans to give back Kasowitz’s second contribution, too. “I don’t want the money to be a millstone around anybody’s neck, including the office’s,” he said.

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Unread postby swishnicholson » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:42:35

pacino wrote:Republicans in Harrisburg will do ANYTHING to prevent taxing the shale:


PLEASE call your rep and tell them to tax the shale, not more tax on hotels...ESPECIALLY if you are in suburban Philly or Central PA and your rep is a Republican


They do realize you can build a hotel (and choose to stay in one) anywhere, but only mine for natural gas where you find it, right? Maybe not.
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Unread postby Squire » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:47:56

No offense but I actually think it helps Trump when people get distracted on the nonsense stuff. And yeah, to me a real estate developer (Don Jr. and Ivanka) lying to prospective buyers about how fast the units are selling and almost getting indicted 5-6 years seems like nonsense stuff to me. I mean l figure that like 98% of real estate developers do that. Frankly, I would prefer the column inches be devoted to the actual current impeachable offenses going on right now by the actual President.

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Unread postby JUburton » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:50:49

You can do both. Reading that story takes 10 minutes and there's still plenty of room for other outrage.

And it's a good story to show, again, that Trumps are rich grifters. And to show how broken the system is. Money and access can prevent consequences. It's a great justice system.

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Unread postby Phred » Wed Oct 04, 2017 13:08:55

Where was this story during the election when it may have been able to matter?
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