President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby pacino » Mon Jul 17, 2017 23:10:39

CalvinBall wrote:Does straight repeal need 60?
since it would increase the deficit I assume but they'll just ignore that again
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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Jul 17, 2017 23:11:16

pacino wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Does straight repeal need 60?
since it would increase the deficit I assume



If so, how does he expect this to work or is it a blame the Dems move?

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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby thephan » Mon Jul 17, 2017 23:11:20

Local controversy - No made in America goods from the District.... why... Official word is that the White House said that it is thrilled to showcase goods from All 50 States.

NICE.
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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby pacino » Mon Jul 17, 2017 23:17:02

32 million would lose insurance
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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby The B1G Piece » Mon Jul 17, 2017 23:55:17

Warszawa wrote:trump gonna blame everybody tomorrow although he hasn't done one thing himself to help sell the bill

He was too busy playing trucks again.

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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby drsmooth » Tue Jul 18, 2017 00:44:28

big surprise: Manafort's claims of payments from Russia-esque places (Ukraine political party) don't add up. According to representatives of that party. He got lots of dough; they didn't have nearly that kind of dough to pay him, unless they also didn't pay for anything else. At all. And then some. In other words he's lying about where his money's come from. I wonder if someone will find out why.
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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby thephan » Tue Jul 18, 2017 00:45:45

The B1G Piece wrote:
Warszawa wrote:trump gonna blame everybody tomorrow although he hasn't done one thing himself to help sell the bill

He was too busy playing trucks again.


Neext time Touch a Truck is in DC, I need to be out of town.

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& Spicer gets the job of taking picture with a cellphone of the President in the truck

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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jul 18, 2017 08:35:15

i usually don't post reason.com articles but asset forfeiture is something they write pretty eloquently about. Sessions wants to increase it:
U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions said the Justice Department will issue new directives to increase the federal govenment's use of civil asset forfeiture, a controversial practice that allows law enforcement to seize property from suspected criminals without charging them with a crime.

Speaking at a National District Attorneys Association conference in Minneapolis Monday, Sessions said state and local law enforcement could expect changes from U.S. Attorneys in several areas: increased prosecution of gun crimes, immigration offenses, gang activity, and prescription drug abuse, as well as increased asset seizure by the federal government.

"[W]e hope to issue this week a new directive on asset forfeiture—especially for drug traffickers," Sessions said. "With care and professionalism, we plan to develop policies to increase forfeitures. No criminal should be allowed to keep the proceeds of their crime. Adoptive forfeitures are appropriate as is sharing with our partners."

However, the practice has exploded since then, and civil liberties groups and political advocacy organizations, both liberal and conservative, say the perverse profit incentives and lack of due process for property owners lead to far more average citizens having their property seized than cartel bosses.

The Justice Department plays a huge role in asset forfeiture through its Equitable Sharing Program, which allows state and local police to have their forfeiture cases "adopted" by the federal government. The feds take over the case, and the seized money is put into the equitable sharing pool. In return, the department gets up to 80 percent of those funds back. The equitable sharing program distributes hundreds of millions of dollars a year to police departments around the country.

Data on asset forfeiture backs up what Thomas says. A Reason investigation of more than 23,000 police seizures in Cook County, Illinois over the last five years showed that Chicago's poor neighborhoods were hit hardest by asset forfeiture. A similar investigation of Mississippi court records showed that law enforcement recorded many big hauls of cash, but the records were also littered with petty and abusive seizures.

A 2014 Washington Post investigative series found that warrantless police seizures of cash through the equitable sharing program have boomed since 9/11, hauling in $2.5 billion. Also in 2014, for the first time ever, the U.S. government seized more property from Americans than burglars did.

no warrant, no crime, you still don't get your stuff back
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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Jul 18, 2017 08:38:07

latest rumor (as addressed above) is that McConnell is going to try and bring the 2015 full repeal to vote. Lee's office stated he'll vote for that motion to proceed, I also assume that will be enough for Rand Paul, and probably Sen. Moran. We would need two new defections to defeat this motion to proceed (or one if they try and push it through without McCain's vote). I am also assuming that Collins is still a No.
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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby JUburton » Tue Jul 18, 2017 08:43:37

TIL that you can use an HSA for healing sessions from a Christian Science Practitioner. A non-medical faith healer. What a world.

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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jul 18, 2017 08:45:03

Trump wants to primary Flake

his allies are also going after Dean Heller.

please proceed, mr president
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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jul 18, 2017 08:46:57

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby thephan » Tue Jul 18, 2017 08:48:59

I am trying to figure out how the drum beat of 36M w/o access to insurance, and therefore care, is a good story, even if it happens after the mid-terms.
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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Jul 18, 2017 08:52:37

thephan wrote:I am trying to figure out how the drum beat of 36M w/o access to insurance, and therefore care, is a good story, even if it happens after the mid-terms.


It's what many GOP Senators have hung their head and their seat on. Of course this was prior to ACA and people are starting to see the light on it. That it is better that was before. Many Senators will try to argue that strict repeal keeps promises and gets the gummnit out of their healthcare which is for the best.

I don't think it will work, but damn it, they'll try.
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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby JUburton » Tue Jul 18, 2017 08:56:27

Not gonna happen. McConnell is flailing.

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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jul 18, 2017 08:57:53

it was the DEMS

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We were let down by all of the Democrats and a few Republicans. Most Republicans were loyal, terrific & worked really hard. We will return!
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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jul 18, 2017 08:59:14

drsmooth wrote:
pacino wrote:Go to day of action tomorrow if you all can.



probably could if I(/we?) had any idea what you were talking about

sorry, didn't see this until just now.

#KillTheBill events

need to make sure this stays dead and we have a new reason to protest (32-36 million losing insurance!!! they upped the ante on us!)
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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Tue Jul 18, 2017 08:59:19

Hurricane center calls tropical storm Don "small and not well organized"
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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jul 18, 2017 09:02:33

North Carolina Democratic Gov Roy Cooper is going on offense leading into 2018

it would seem part of the coordination is with Eric Holder (and Obama)
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Re: President Trump BARELY KNOWS This Don Jr Person Politics

Postby thephan » Tue Jul 18, 2017 09:06:53

pacino wrote:it was the DEMS

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That is such a stoopid line. Of course it was, and maybe they should find a way to improve ACA, get it scored, and put it up for a vote (to be crush by the 'not Dems). Everyone knows that large programs with a lot of moving parts needs improvement and refactoring over time. It was never near perfect, and the speed of execution certainly hurt ACA, but it should be improved, and the original authors should take responsibility in this leadership vacuum to offer that plan. If they do not have something 80% ready, they are as bad as their political opposites.
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