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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby slugsrbad » Mon Jul 10, 2017 22:01:51

I can't wait for the spin. I'm sure there are plenty of Pro Trump people out there that either don't care or see Hillary as a bigger threat to America.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby drsmooth » Mon Jul 10, 2017 22:03:59

Bucky wrote:he's not doing any time. nor facing any charges. Mueller will brings mounds of evidence to the DoJ who will brush it off as no big deal and it will go no further. No Rs in congress will protest. Life will go on.


do jinxes of this sort work in areas other than Phillies brand® baseball games?

I guess we'll find out
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby pacino » Mon Jul 10, 2017 22:12:19

slugsrbad wrote:I can't wait for the spin. I'm sure there are plenty of Pro Trump people out there that either don't care or see Hillary as a bigger threat to America.

1. steele document was probably funded by clinton!

2. so what?

3. look at the overreaction by the liberals!

4. red scare!!!!
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby drsmooth » Mon Jul 10, 2017 22:25:25

jerseyhoya wrote:I do think before you get too excited about him going to jail, you might want to look into whether, even if everything reported is true, any laws were broken.


I promise I'll give as much scrutiny to it as donnie did before he took the meeting.

laws were broken. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. I want drumpf jr held, "for questioning", until charges are levied on him & others, & he and other guilty parties are tried, convicted, sentenced, and, ideally, deported, hung, or "shot trying to escape".

I want these awful people never to have been born, for them to wish that my wishes had been true, and to have elected Republicans gnashing their teeth down to the bare roots that they did nothing to derail this miserable embarrassment to our country, and for some of them to pull their own teeth out in the knowledge they actually abetted this disgusting travesty.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby pacino » Mon Jul 10, 2017 22:25:54

slugsrbad wrote:I can't wait for the spin. I'm sure there are plenty of Pro Trump people out there that either don't care or see Hillary as a bigger threat to America.

hannity has a novel one: it was a setup; also, Ukraine is bad, Comey is bad, Mueller can't be trusted, etc
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby pacino » Mon Jul 10, 2017 22:49:20

Please contact your state legislator and tell them to stop THEIR attacks on Medicaid.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby thephan » Mon Jul 10, 2017 22:50:09

Show me the email... if the glove don,t fit, you must acquit
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Mon Jul 10, 2017 23:17:21

but really, what law was broken? It's a fair question.

I know the whole campaign is doing Putin's work, but there has to be a law broken before anything can be done to Donny Jr.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby drsmooth » Mon Jul 10, 2017 23:50:15

Monkeyboy wrote:but really, what law was broken? It's a fair question.

I know the whole campaign is doing Putin's work, but there has to be a law broken before anything can be done to Donny Jr.



oh, for FUCK's fucking sake. Stop attempting lawyer words, "not lawyers". You'll have your FUCKING PICK of broken laws. We're a ways from hearings. Stop falling for this noise pollution: "there's no evidence!" - there is PLENTY of EVIDENCE. What's not in hand, as yet, is PROOF. "What laws were broken?" What ones do you WANT? Law's a lot like, maybe too uncomfortably like, accounting: when someone asks what's 2+2, an accountant will ask you what you want it to be....

I know Richard Painter's just a lowly ethics lawyer who, it happens, worked under the regime of the next-to-the-worst US POTUS ever, and he's not an armchair treason expert lawyer like jerz, but just see some of his Twitter remarks: @rwpusa.

What a surprise, lawyers will disagree about the "legalities" of any situation. These tick-fuckers have to be squashed. Let the squashing begin.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Tue Jul 11, 2017 00:54:41

so you don't know?

I just want to make sure they don't walk.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Tue Jul 11, 2017 00:56:26

Hardly ever read dailykos, but a friend sent this on facebook. It nicely lays out where we are. Hard to believe Trump will not be impeached. And as the long tweet says, the probe is really just getting started.

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/7/9 ... Trump-knew
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby drsmooth » Tue Jul 11, 2017 07:22:34

Monkeyboy wrote:so you don't know?



Jesus CHRIST, nancy - NO, I don't know. I don't know exactly how gravity works, either
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Tue Jul 11, 2017 07:23:28

and this is just what the press has uncovered so far (some from WH sources!), I'm willing to bet that the press is sitting on some stories and waiting on approval from Mueller to publish (as to not ruin investigation) and there's probably all sorts of money stuff that they don't even know about since Mueller has subpoena power

I suspect we have more bombs coming in the next few months
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby drsmooth » Tue Jul 11, 2017 07:26:46

So this morning drumpfco is peddling the notion that Uday went off and arranged this whole meeting with the Moscow chick who's got the email goods on DNC on his own

Uday hasn't wiped his own ass in his entire life. He's not running his own ops


Still waiting for big elected Rs - other than Susan Collins - to open their lie holes and let us all know how fine they are with this SHIT

even Barry fucking Goldwater eventually got it
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jul 11, 2017 07:41:03

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:and this is just what the press has uncovered so far (some from WH sources!), I'm willing to bet that the press is sitting on some stories and waiting on approval from Mueller to publish (as to not ruin investigation) and there's probably all sorts of money stuff that they don't even know about since Mueller has subpoena power

I suspect we have more bombs coming in the next few months

i bet this is it and they have nothing and it's all fake news, tcc. and if i don't see it in my newspaper that prints only lies anyway by tomorrow then i'll be proven correct that it's just democrats hiding the fact that hillary clinton didnt campaign in wisconsin enough.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Jul 11, 2017 07:55:56

Hey, I hate the Trump regime as much as the next guy, but they are innocent until proven guilty. We should not take anything as a sure thing, and remember the guy next in line is probably worse for what most of us believe in.

Doc is right though, that there are a plethora of laws that could be prosecuted here. With Don Jr. there can cases made (how strong, none of us know because we don't have all the facts) from treason to campaign finance laws .

One thing that is overshadowed and down right criminal (in the colloquial sense, not legal) is how Kushner keeps walking into the White House with clearance. Kushner omitted multiple meetings with Russian nationals on his clearance request form (SF86). I'm sure there is a criminal statute tied to willful omissions, but I don't feel like finding it right now. The fact is, willful or not, the omission of these meetings is disqualifying.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:06:52

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/ ... son-240383

The White House asked the White House Correspondents' Association to single out a reporter and criticize an article, WHCA President Jeff Mason said Monday evening.

Mason's comments were made at a WHCA town hall where White House reporters pose questions to the WHCA board.

"The White House has come to ask me specifically, asking me to intervene or criticize a news organization or a reporter… to release a statement criticizing a reporter’s story," Mason said, declining to elaborate further on when the ask was made or about what article.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:08:25

But his emails
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:09:58

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby pacino » Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:14:59

HARRISBURG, Pa. — For the second straight year, Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf let a state budget bill become law despite being badly out of balance as he presses Pennsylvania's Republican-controlled Legislature to approve a tax package big enough to avoid a credit downgrade.

Wolf's decision came in a statement Monday, after the collapse of down-to-the-wire negotiations and hours before the nearly $32 billion spending bill was to become law without his signature at midnight.

Wolf — who had stayed out of sight since Friday — wrote in his statement that he hoped lawmakers could come together in the coming days to responsibly balance a budget plan with a projected $2 billion hole in it.

The revenue package under construction in closed-door negotiations was to rely primarily on borrowing and involved another big expansion of casino gambling in the nation's No. 2 commercial casino state.
Wolf rejected Republican plans that leaned more heavily on one-time cash infusions, and pressed Republicans to support a larger package of tax increases, top lawmakers say.
Wolf had sought $700 million to $800 million in reliable, annual revenue, such as tax increases. House Republicans had been unwilling to offer a tax package even half that size, Democrats say.
Top senators said tax increases under discussion involved basic cable service, movie tickets, bank profits, telephone service and electric service. Another element of a proposed budget deal, designed to save money, would give the state the option to shut down unprofitable wine and liquor stores and transfer the stock to a nearby beer distributor to be sold there.

Wolf has pushed Republicans to agree to a production tax on natural gas drilling in the Marcellus Shale, his third straight year of doing so. Pennsylvania, the nation's No. 2 natural gas state, is the only large natural gas-producing state that does not tax the product. Top Republican lawmakers have rejected that, despite its support from most Democrats and moderate Republicans.

TAX THE SHALE
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