Warszawa wrote:Trump voter fraud commission asking for voter info - hopefully they won't pass along to Russia

The GOP budget aims to de-fund the Election Assistance Commission.

pacino wrote:

Warszawa wrote:Trump voter fraud commission asking for voter info - hopefully they won't pass along to Russia

The GOP budget aims to de-fund the Election Assistance Commission.

2018 could be very ugly

jerseyhoya wrote:The media is notoriously easy on conservatives!

Why was someone like, say, Bobby Jindal ever taken remotely seriously? In the first half of this decade I read/watched probably a dozen mainstream media think pieces on how he was the future of the Republican Party/American politics.

Augustus wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:The media is notoriously easy on conservatives!

Why was someone like, say, Bobby Jindal ever taken remotely seriously? In the first half of this decade I read/watched probably a dozen mainstream media think pieces on how he was the future of the Republican Party/American politics.

Because he was a Rhodes scholar who ran his state's hospital then university system, served as a top official in the Bush administration, was in Congress for three terms, then a two term governor who was re-elected in a landslide all by the time he was in his early 40s?

jerseyhoya wrote:Because he was a Rhodes scholar who ran his state's hospital then university system, served as a top official in the Bush administration, was in Congress for three terms, then a two term governor who was re-elected in a landslide all by the time he was in his early 40s?

and NOW is not taken remotely seriously

drumpf on with new S Korean Prez

every leader of any other nation is better than the gob of shit standing at the podium with the seal of the POTUS on it

Maybe we could trade Trump for him if we agree to take on his salary and throw in a couple of 2nd's.

That WSJ Article about Smith, who died in May begs the question... Did Trump's people get him? Just a fun, conspiracy type flashback to anyone who has ever died and knew the Clintons.

traderdave wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Morning Joe should've spent less time gargling Trump's balls during the primary

100% correct.

They, of course, would never acknowledge it but they are part of the reason this imbecile is our country's leader. I noted way back during the primaries that Trump was on their show practically every other day for weeks. Rather than spending that time stroking his "ego", they should have been asking tough questions and really pulling back the curtain on our child king. Perhaps the people who voted for him thinking "Ah, how bad could it be?" would have had a clearer understanding of just how bad it could/would be.

Frankly, and I cannot believe I am about to type this, in some ways, it is actually worse than I thought it would be. The United States of America has become an international joke. And that is bad for everybody.

Nah, I'm not buying that. Sure, Joe could've and should've been tougher on Trump early on, but who voted for Trump and did not know who they were voting for? Everything public was beyond bad and they still voted for him.

We'er about as bad off as I expected, but I guess my expectations were very low to begin with.

jerseyhoya wrote:

Augustus wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:The media is notoriously easy on conservatives!

Why was someone like, say, Bobby Jindal ever taken remotely seriously? In the first half of this decade I read/watched probably a dozen mainstream media think pieces on how he was the future of the Republican Party/American politics.

Because he was a Rhodes scholar who ran his state's hospital then university system, served as a top official in the Bush administration, was in Congress for three terms, then a two term governor who was re-elected in a landslide all by the time he was in his early 40s?

Jindal ran and governed in his first term as a pragmatic, reforming, good government type, who won in part because of how Katrina demonstrated that the corruption endemic to Louisiana Politics was not in fact a "victimless" crime. (It's important to remember that he had lost his bid for governor four years earlier probably in part because the Northern Louisiana conservatives thought him too brown.) However, he quickly went Brownback, calculating I suppose that he had to prove his ideological bona fides to have a legitimate chance as the Presidency (which he probably would never have won, in part because of a well know dorm room exorcism). This of course was an utter disaster for both the state and in many respects for the state Republican Party, which in fact lost the Governor's mansion in the aftermath.

lethal wrote:

traderdave wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Morning Joe should've spent less time gargling Trump's balls during the primary

100% correct.

They, of course, would never acknowledge it but they are part of the reason this imbecile is our country's leader. I noted way back during the primaries that Trump was on their show practically every other day for weeks. Rather than spending that time stroking his "ego", they should have been asking tough questions and really pulling back the curtain on our child king. Perhaps the people who voted for him thinking "Ah, how bad could it be?" would have had a clearer understanding of just how bad it could/would be.

Frankly, and I cannot believe I am about to type this, in some ways, it is actually worse than I thought it would be. The United States of America has become an international joke. And that is bad for everybody.

Nah, I'm not buying that. Sure, Joe could've and should've been tougher on Trump early on, but who voted for Trump and did not know who they were voting for? Everything public was beyond bad and they still voted for him.

We'er about as bad off as I expected, but I guess my expectations were very low to begin with.

The big story no one is getting, because it serves no one's interest to put out this story, is that Trump is almost entirely a creature enabled by our current media environment, one that is as contemptuous of policy detail as Trump himself, a media that feeds on conflict and personality. It's television that gets Trump the Republican nomination, and it's the false equivalency of almost all the media (in an attempt to appear "unbiased") that treats Trump as a serious candidate.

I mean, I don't remember hearing anyone say after one of those debate performances anything like "Trump is unprepared, and far too unintelligent to serve as President. Anyone who thinks about voting for him should really look hard at their decision making process."

TenuredVulture wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

Augustus wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:The media is notoriously easy on conservatives!

Why was someone like, say, Bobby Jindal ever taken remotely seriously? In the first half of this decade I read/watched probably a dozen mainstream media think pieces on how he was the future of the Republican Party/American politics.

Because he was a Rhodes scholar who ran his state's hospital then university system, served as a top official in the Bush administration, was in Congress for three terms, then a two term governor who was re-elected in a landslide all by the time he was in his early 40s?

Jindal ran and governed in his first term as a pragmatic, reforming, good government type, who won in part because of how Katrina demonstrated that the corruption endemic to Louisiana Politics was not in fact a "victimless" crime. (It's important to remember that he had lost his bid for governor four years earlier probably in part because the Northern Louisiana conservatives thought him too brown.) However, he quickly went Brownback, calculating I suppose that he had to prove his ideological bona fides to have a legitimate chance as the Presidency (which he probably would never have won, in part because of a well know dorm room exorcism). This of course was an utter disaster for both the state and in many respects for the state Republican Party, which in fact lost the Governor's mansion in the aftermath.

What the what now? I just googled it and read a Post article about it. Never heard about this before.

TenuredVulture wrote:I mean, I don't remember hearing anyone say after one of those debate performances anything like "Trump is unprepared, and far too unintelligent to serve as President. Anyone who thinks about voting for him should really look hard at their decision making process."

I'm pretty sure people were saying things like this - O'Donnell almost gleefully mocked drumpf's lack of qualifications, and continues to do so - but they certainly were paid little to no heed - that kind of thing doesn't sell ads!

Sorry if I missed this mentioned but, with all the focus on national politics and our Infant-in-Chief, it may have been overlooked that NJ is less than seven hours away from a state government shutdown.

PA is going to squeak by with a budget. It's cutting some essential service money but beefing up education and pension payments

We have Senators coming out of the woodwork to say that they would vote for repeal. Fly back today to cast a vote. Sort of your expected people with SASS and Yoho, there's some other guy too. It just surprises me. Also, it must be like a big slap of bird crap on the people who are " negotiating ".

Yoho's big idea is that 85% of Americans are already covered by their employer, so that just leaves 15%. Where that is sort of true, is that not realistically what we really always been talking about.

traderdave wrote:Sorry if I missed this mentioned but, with all the focus on national politics and our Infant-in-Chief, it may have been overlooked that NJ is less than seven hours away from a state government shutdown.

Part of the whining in DC has been that since things weren't going his way, he suggested a good old shut down. That made very quiet news even locally, because tweet tweet tweet

thephan wrote:We have Senators coming out of the woodwork to say that they would vote for repeal. Fly back today to cast a vote. Sort of your expected people with SASS and Yoho

While Yoho is a crackpot, he is not a Senator

Ben Sasse's first big idea on the national stage - repeal now, replace later - is a stupid one. Stick to swell speeches, Benji

Hey, 15% of the population is only about 48MM. NBD.