The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Wheels Tupay » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:09:40

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Phred » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:28:32

He's distracting us from the ACHA.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby thephan » Sun Jul 02, 2017 15:24:07

And Russia.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Youseff » Sun Jul 02, 2017 22:13:15

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby slugsrbad » Sun Jul 02, 2017 22:42:43

Good thing the beaches are closed to peasants.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Youseff » Sun Jul 02, 2017 22:49:43

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it's fun to go way back to like a month ago and remember the horrible scandals the POTUS was involved in. jersey's beloved GOP would make a Jerry Bruckheimer movie about this gaffe if a prominent Dem was responsible.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Sun Jul 02, 2017 23:11:45

Shutdown isn't Christie's fault. It's a high degree of DGAF but to just show up on the beach today is tremendous.

God I wish bridgegate never happened. Would love to still unabashedly love him.

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Youseff » Sun Jul 02, 2017 23:23:19

you'd stick your gob in his stomach fat man pussy and bob for apples
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Youseff » Sun Jul 02, 2017 23:24:36

jerseyhoya wrote: It's a high degree of DGAF but to just show up on the beach today is tremendous.


being a troll is what I look for in my politicians, the kek guy says
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Sun Jul 02, 2017 23:29:43

There's no good reason for him not to go. Any politician who is thinking about re-election or future office wouldn't go because of the optics. But he doesn't care. It's not his fault the gov't shut down, it's his last year as gov, it's a nice weekend, wgaf. Time to head to the gov beach house.

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Youseff » Sun Jul 02, 2017 23:34:42

I guess that's cool to you then? he's super fat and looks like a loogie, and being on the beach accentuates how much of an unnatural monstrosity he is. nothing about that picture is a good thing.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Stay_Disappointed » Mon Jul 03, 2017 00:33:47

I'm pretty sure that if Darth Vader were real he would be somewhere in trumps cabinet
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Stay_Disappointed » Mon Jul 03, 2017 00:35:58

slugsrbad wrote:Good thing the beaches are closed to peasants.


Pretty sure he is gunning for zero percent approval rating by the end of his term
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Stay_Disappointed » Mon Jul 03, 2017 00:39:31

Tom price is a real POS - gives Pruitt and Sessions a run for their money on the POS scale
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby swishnicholson » Mon Jul 03, 2017 00:45:06

jerseyhoya wrote:There's no good reason for him not to go. Any politician who is thinking about re-election or future office wouldn't go because of the optics. But he doesn't care. It's not his fault the gov't shut down, it's his last year as gov, it's a nice weekend, wgaf. Time to head to the gov beach house.


I wrote a semi-exculpatory post about him a couple days ago, but upon further review I was wrong. It absolutely is his fault the government is shut down. I won't discuss the mixed merits of the legislation he is campaigning for, but the fact is that both are outside of the budget process, are certainly not emergency legislation (neither would raise extra funds necessary to pay for budgeted programs) and are able to be debated in the future on their own merits. The threat that he has used to stalemate the budget process is to slash integral programs, ones that he has admitted he could live with if his favored (and again, extraneous) legislation were to be passed. These are not chosen on their merits, but on their importance and value to Democratic legislators. The legislature is faced with the choice of passing a budget that simply will not end up being the budget they passed or, what exactly? They came up with a balanced budget acceptable to the Governor. I'm not sure what else they can be expected to do. Certainly they've engaged in plenty of petty gamesmanship over the years, but choosing not to do so in this case seems like the adult thing to do.

Again, the Christie legislation is not necessary to pay for anything that is in the current budget-were that the case an argument could be made. But the lottery shift is obviously revenue neutral, and the Horizon taking is to fund additional programs. There's no principle he's standing on other than getting his way. The vacationing on shuttered Island Beach, the plastering of state property with posters pointing fingers; those aren't bad optics, those are just further exposure of a petty, vindictive and selfish character.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby JFLNYC » Mon Jul 03, 2017 02:41:50

Unfortunately petty, vindictive and selfish are apparently no longer reasons to criticize our elected officials. In fact, among half the electorate they're desirable, even admirable, traits.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Mon Jul 03, 2017 07:07:34

No beached whale jokes?
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Bucky » Mon Jul 03, 2017 07:08:14

electoral, not electorate 8-)

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Mon Jul 03, 2017 08:12:28

It's amazing to see how Jerz and Christie have fallen to the depths they have.

Don't care about Christie being fat. Do care that he's a piece of shit.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Mon Jul 03, 2017 09:20:46

swishnicholson wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:There's no good reason for him not to go. Any politician who is thinking about re-election or future office wouldn't go because of the optics. But he doesn't care. It's not his fault the gov't shut down, it's his last year as gov, it's a nice weekend, wgaf. Time to head to the gov beach house.


I wrote a semi-exculpatory post about him a couple days ago, but upon further review I was wrong. It absolutely is his fault the government is shut down. I won't discuss the mixed merits of the legislation he is campaigning for, but the fact is that both are outside of the budget process, are certainly not emergency legislation (neither would raise extra funds necessary to pay for budgeted programs) and are able to be debated in the future on their own merits. The threat that he has used to stalemate the budget process is to slash integral programs, ones that he has admitted he could live with if his favored (and again, extraneous) legislation were to be passed. These are not chosen on their merits, but on their importance and value to Democratic legislators. The legislature is faced with the choice of passing a budget that simply will not end up being the budget they passed or, what exactly? They came up with a balanced budget acceptable to the Governor. I'm not sure what else they can be expected to do. Certainly they've engaged in plenty of petty gamesmanship over the years, but choosing not to do so in this case seems like the adult thing to do.

Again, the Christie legislation is not necessary to pay for anything that is in the current budget-were that the case an argument could be made. But the lottery shift is obviously revenue neutral, and the Horizon taking is to fund additional programs. There's no principle he's standing on other than getting his way. The vacationing on shuttered Island Beach, the plastering of state property with posters pointing fingers; those aren't bad optics, those are just further exposure of a petty, vindictive and selfish character.

I haven't been following every twist and turn, but isn't the gist that he and Sweeney agreed that Christie wouldn't veto a couple hundred million in spending that the Dems want in exchange for these bills being moved along side the budget? A majority of the Assembly also agrees with the plan, just Prieto won't bring it to a vote.

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