jerseyhoya wrote:Shutdown isn't Christie's fault. It's a high degree of DGAF but to just show up on the beach today is tremendous.

God I wish bridgegate never happened. Would love to still unabashedly love him.

Werthless wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Shutdown isn't Christie's fault. It's a high degree of DGAF but to just show up on the beach today is tremendous.

God I wish bridgegate never happened. Would love to still unabashedly love him.

Eh, I loved Christie years ago, but his early support for Trump says a lot more about his character and principles than whether he directed or just allowed his team to close a bridge.

jerseyhoya wrote:This from 101.5 says most of the Dems abstaining were "holding out for a vote on the Horizon bill", not abstaining because they're worried the Horizon bill would fail. They're mostly SJ Dems, who I'm sure support the Horizon bill since Norcross supports it, and the speaker wanted his caucus to vote yes. I don't know what the vote counting math is, but if the abstaining Dems support it, you'd just need a bit more than half of the Republicans to pass the bill. There have also been a few stories about a potential coup against Prieto if this drags on.

They're all playing politics or dirty games or whatever, but think with two of the three needed veto points on board, and the speaker holding up the bill when the third veto point wants to say yes, the speaker is the person primarily at fault for the shutdown. Unless there actually isn't a majority supporting the overall compromise in the Assembly, in which case I'd agree with you that Christie deserves most of the blame for insisting they're all grouped together.

Assembly Speaker Vincent Prieto (D., Hudson) held a vote on a $34.7 billion spending plan but was forced to pull the bill when it failed to win majority support. About half of the Democratic caucus refused to cast a vote on the budget, believing that Christie would veto their priorities if they did not also pass legislation that would dramatically change Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey.

jerseyhoya wrote:

Werthless wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Shutdown isn't Christie's fault. It's a high degree of DGAF but to just show up on the beach today is tremendous.

God I wish bridgegate never happened. Would love to still unabashedly love him.

Eh, I loved Christie years ago, but his early support for Trump says a lot more about his character and principles than whether he directed or just allowed his team to close a bridge.

The Trump thing was the worst, and convinced people in denial like me that he's deeply flawed person whose has some base instincts which make him ill-suited to power.

If Bridgegate never happened could be broadened to a general critique of his management style, personality and priorities rather than the specific occurrence of bridge lanes being closed. But maybe without those qualities there wouldn't have been the brashness that allowed the earlier positive accomplishments. I dunno.

Youseff wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote: It's a high degree of DGAF but to just show up on the beach today is tremendous.

being a troll is what I look for in my politicians, the kek guy says

drsmooth wrote:there's only one reason Cruz's stupid "repeal option", and Sasse's even more ridiculous "repeal with delay" idea, are not laughed right out of our country:

far too many people involved with making health coverage policy, of all political persuasions, don't know a damned thing about it

Maine’s secretary of State is refusing to comply with a request from President Trump’s voter fraud commission to turn over information on its voters, making it the latest in a string of states to deny the request.

In a letter to Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who is the vice chairman of Trump’s commission, Matthew Dunlap cites a Maine statute that prevents the state from sharing the information requested by the commission because its request stated that “any documents that are submitted to the full Commission will also be made available to the public."

Dunlap, who serves on Trump’s voter fraud commission, is the latest state official to refuse the commission’s request for voter information, which includes names, political affiliation, voting history and the last four digits of the Social Security numbers of all registered voters.

Borunda reportedly told Gov. Larry Hogan (R) that he has resigned from the Trump administration's Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, the governor's spokesman Doug Mayer told the paper.

"He informed our office he has resigned from the commission," Mayer said.

In May, Trump created the panel in an executive order after making the baseless claim that millions of people cast illegal votes for Hillary Clinton, his Democratic opponent.

The Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity — formed by President Trump to investigate his widely debunked claim that millions of illegal votes cost him the popular vote in November's election — sent letters last week to the 50 secretaries of state across the country requesting information about voters.

drsmooth wrote:Maddow was pretty good tonite, but O'Donnell's intro killed, again

Youseff wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

Werthless wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Shutdown isn't Christie's fault. It's a high degree of DGAF but to just show up on the beach today is tremendous.

God I wish bridgegate never happened. Would love to still unabashedly love him.

Eh, I loved Christie years ago, but his early support for Trump says a lot more about his character and principles than whether he directed or just allowed his team to close a bridge.

The Trump thing was the worst, and convinced people in denial like me that he's deeply flawed person whose has some base instincts which make him ill-suited to power.

If Bridgegate never happened could be broadened to a general critique of his management style, personality and priorities rather than the specific occurrence of bridge lanes being closed. But maybe without those qualities there wouldn't have been the brashness that allowed the earlier positive accomplishments. I dunno.

I know boot licking isn't repulsive to you, but to the rest of us when Christie tongue fucks Trump's shoes it reflects poorly on his character. I guess knowing you I could see how you'd think that was actually cool.