The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby The Nightman Cometh » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:34:31

GrizzledVeteran wrote:
swishnicholson wrote:
pacino wrote:i honestly don't even get what the horizon bill was about? someone that knows nj politics give me a primer?


Yeah, I could give you the basics of the bill, but the why this, why now is a mystery to me. Power grab by somebody for somebody, but I don't know where the roots lie.


I read somewhere that Christie wanted Horizon to use the cash to buy the insurance firm of South Jersey political capo George Norcross. Christie's former chief of staff works for Norcross now. Even though Norcross is a Dem, he and Christie have worked together.

Uh, no.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby thephan » Tue Jul 04, 2017 15:29:51

I saw a survey that had more people trusting CNN then Trump, but there were some other numbers in that that were on the order of 89% of R's trust Trump, and 9% Trust CNN. It was a flip for D's. I did not see self identified Indy's listed. TBF, I was browsing on my phone.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Stay_Disappointed » Tue Jul 04, 2017 15:55:35

thephan wrote:I saw a survey that had more people trusting CNN then Trump, but there were some other numbers in that that were on the order of 89% of R's trust Trump, and 9% Trust CNN. It was a flip for D's. I did not see self identified Indy's listed. TBF, I was browsing on my phone.


Yeah the survey would be a lot more interesting with independents included - although I guess they are trying to show polarIzation I guess
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Wheels Tupay » Tue Jul 04, 2017 18:56:11

I really wouldn't be shocked if we wake up one day and China has overthrown Jung Un. There is no way they let the US, Japan and South Korea etc. take control.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby thephan » Wed Jul 05, 2017 07:26:57

44 states are out, but 3 states are in.

Missouri's argument is that it will provide publicly available information. Jay Ashcroft, Missouri Secretary of State says that every form of "Vote Fraud" you can imagine happens in Missouri. They had one case on record that was prosecuted, and that is enough it would seem to line up. I would be on board with providing what is generally available as it is in circulation and I know that, but the line of justification to participate is sad.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby JFLNYC » Wed Jul 05, 2017 07:31:43

The MO AG must be asleep at the wheel if there's all that voter fraud.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby pacino » Wed Jul 05, 2017 07:49:46

How could he even certify his own election
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby traderdave » Wed Jul 05, 2017 07:58:31

thephan wrote:44 states are out, but 3 states are in.

Missouri's argument is that it will provide publicly available information. Jay Ashcroft, Missouri Secretary of State says that every form of "Vote Fraud" you can imagine happens in Missouri. They had one case on record that was prosecuted, and that is enough it would seem to line up. I would be on board with providing what is generally available as it is in circulation and I know that, but the line of justification to participate is sad.


Which three?

EDIT - Answered my own question - Colorado, Missouri, Tennessee; however, comments from its SoS seem to indicate that only two states are complying:

"Although I appreciate the commission's mission to address election-related issues, like voter fraud, Tennessee state law does not allow my office to release the voter information requested to the federal commission," tweeted Secretary of State Tre Hargett.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/03/politics/ ... index.html

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby pacino » Wed Jul 05, 2017 08:31:19

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) — A package of legislation aimed at ending a two-year Illinois budget standoff is heading back to the House.

The House convenes Wednesday to consider overriding Republican Gov. Bruce Rauner's vetoes of a $36 billion budget fueled by a $5 billion increase in income taxes. The legislation bounced several times Tuesday.

The Senate approved the budget plan and tax increase with a necessary three-fifths majority vote, but Rauner vetoed them three hours later.

The Senate then wasted no time in overriding the vetoes and sending them back to the House for consideration.

Democratic House Speaker Michael Madigan announced after the Senate action that the House wouldn't vote on the vetoes that day, but didn't say why.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Phred » Wed Jul 05, 2017 08:53:39

pacino wrote:
UPPER MERION TOWNSHIP, PA
A state senator is seeking the Democratic nomination in the 7th Congressional District, which includes parts of Berks, Chester, Delaware, Lancaster and Montgomery counties.

Sen. Daylin Leach of Montgomery County made his announcement Saturday night. He plans an official campaign kickoff event Thursday.
At least two other Democrats - Dan Muroff and Molly Sheehan - are seeking the nomination in the May primary to face incumbent Republican Rep. Patrick L. Meehan of Delaware County in November 2018.


Wish I could vote for this guy. Hope he wins.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby pacino » Wed Jul 05, 2017 09:23:05

the problem both Muroff and Sheehan will get is being labeled Philadelphia Democrats in the general. All will be called liberals, but Leach could actually bring out an anti-liberal vote with his rhetoric.

I think I'd go Sheehan if she actually lived in the district. Initially I'd have gone Muroff, but I think I'm switching at this point for a 'new voices' thing. It sure would be nice to live in the district and not have that be an issue!

All would be fine as far as voting goes, but we do need to see who would be a good candidate. I'm going to be seeing Sheehan speak on Thursday, and I hope to see Muroff speak before I make my useless decision (I live in the 16th). Leach is already pretty visible and probably becomes the favorite.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby thephan » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:07:29

As AFOne was taxiing, there was time to get some destructive tweets off. I'd say self destructive, except that it is splashing all over us citizens.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby Werthless » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:59:35

Had a politics discussion with my Dad last night. He basically told my sister to stop posting politics on facebook (not bad advice, to be honest, if your goal was to prevent alienating people). He said, unprompted, that it's mostly fake news anyway, and that everyone is against Trump, and all media is under-reporting Trump's successes. Never one to avoid an argument, I asked which successes are being under-reported. He couldnt name one, but said that he's sure that Trump has done something for Veterans or something, but the media isn't going to tell us about it.

He asserted that all of the Washington Post is fake news, among other things (Is the CBO really nonpartisan? Everyone is Obama appointees, even the ones that were Bush appointees, Mueller can't be trusted because he is friends with Comey, Comey intervened in the election and helped Trump but Comey is still biased against Trump and in the pocket of Obama, the Russian thing will be nothing because we haven't heard about it yet, etc). I mean, I know he listens to talk radio, but it's amazing how he twists himself in circles to argue in favor of Trump. I'm not even sure he liked Trump 2 years ago, and now he can do no wrong. No self-reflection. He doesn't even realize it, but just gets caught up in everything. I was just saddened and frustrated.

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:03:08

sounds like Dad has been living in an echo chamber
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby jamiethekiller » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:05:49

My mom's no different. Wild stuff

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby JUburton » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:21:02

I wish Roger Ailes had a heart attack 25 years ago.

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:23:25

well here's some more fake news for you


The new lawsuit comes weeks after the publication of a classified National Security Agency report describing a sophisticated scheme, allegedly by Russian military intelligence, to infiltrate local U.S. elections systems using phishing emails.

The suit cites the work of private cybersecurity researcher Logan Lamb, who discovered last August that a misconfigured server had left Georgia's 6.7 million voter records and other sensitive files exposed to hackers. The complaint also notes that seven months after Lamb made that discovery, another researcher was able to do the same.


could you imagine if the most expensive congressional race in history gets nullified?
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:30:07

So NPR tweeted out the Declaration of Independence, and a bunch of Republicans were offended.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/npr ... mg00000063

I do wish they'd rewrite the headline to Republicans, but our media are biased in favor of Republicans, trying to make it seem like they're a respectable organization.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby drsmooth » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:30:08

no one who's known anything about drumpf for any span of time at all prior to the last presidential campaign has anything but contempt for him & his current mob.

Mueller needs to move carefully, not because finding sufficient evidence to convict drumpf and his filthy collaborators will be difficult - the evidence to convict them on many counts is undoubtedly abundant - but rather because the case will need to persuade even some share of the startingly ignorant mass that defends drumpf mainly because someone on Fox has told them to.

If I'm Mueller I try to find at least some evidence that someone(s) in Murdoch's orbit is up to their elbows in filthy shit, and turn Murdoch/Fox from slavish defender to neutral/skeptical, for whatever reason. Yeah, I know, completely preposterous.

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Unread postby thephan » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:30:26

What is the end game for North Korea? Its opaque at best. There seem to be no real demands aside from trolling the rest of the word. Is internet so bad in NK that it is easier to fire missiles then tweet?
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