The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby thephan » Tue Jun 27, 2017 18:59:17

President Donald Trump said negotiators are continuing to work and "getting very close" on a deal and that Obamacare was "melting down as we speak."


It never gets old for him to create uncertainty in the market, does it.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby thephan » Tue Jun 27, 2017 19:20:40

Carl's Jr. slapped with $1.45 million fine for underpaying L.A. workers


Brought to you in part for trumps first choice for labor secretary. Seriously, that was his best people/top talent to make theUS great. The sad thing was we all knew this was going to be the outcome
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby drsmooth » Tue Jun 27, 2017 19:37:42

jerseyhoya wrote:I think many expected him to mature upon ascending to office. Or at least he would care enough about 'winning' to keep his attention span on things for more than 15 seconds.


I think you're right, and the difficulty with that is it indicts so many who you'd otherwise look to as reliable sources of R leadership. Because how could you believe any of this, of a guy who's been like this for decades, unless you're 1) a fool 2) have even less interest in the welfare of the USA than he does, 3) 1) and 2)
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby thephan » Tue Jun 27, 2017 20:36:52

4) you thought that he'd be a stooge quietly allowing congress and senate to do whatever it pleased.

The funny thing is that it sold have worked that way if only they mastered pandering to him.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jun 27, 2017 21:16:01

Warszawa wrote:Pat toomey : MYTH vs. FACT: The Senate bill, Medicaid expansion, and per capita cap reforms

https://www.toomey.senate.gov/?p=news&id=1941

Curious what you guys think about these talking points

I think they're very dumb and very disengenous.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Jun 27, 2017 21:46:36

I'm happy there are so many people who can go protest at congressional offices across the country. Idk how they all get off work and all that, but proud of them.

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby Bucky » Tue Jun 27, 2017 21:49:02

that IS their job!!! Soros pays them!!!

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby pacino » Tue Jun 27, 2017 22:01:59

CalvinBall wrote:I'm happy there are so many people who can go protest at congressional offices across the country. Idk how they all get off work and all that, but proud of them.

I know many...many are retired
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Jun 27, 2017 23:48:28

Sounds like things are reaching a new level of disorder in Venezuela.

Socialism is the best.

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Jun 28, 2017 05:38:58

CalvinBall wrote:I'm happy there are so many people who can go protest at congressional offices across the country. Idk how they all get off work and all that, but proud of them.


My 72 year old dad is retired and has been to at least 10 protests, he's made it his mission since Trump was elected
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby drsmooth » Wed Jun 28, 2017 07:04:51

warzawa wrote:Curious what you guys think about these talking points


It's a cherry-picked mishmash of bullshit and lies. Who would have expected that?

example:

MYTH: The current Medicaid program is sustainable.

FACT: No government program can grow faster than the economy in perpetuity without eventually causing a crisis.

Senator, health treatment costs have risen "faster than the economy" for DECADES. They DRIVE increases in the cost of living. Health treatment as a share of GDP has risen for a long, long time, well before ACA. A good-sized share of that increase is not warranted by the quality of America's health that has accompanied it. Congress needs to take action to fix that. YOUR GOD-DAMNED MASSIVE TAX CUT FOR THE 0.1% DOESN'T FIX THAT. Let's talk about THAT, shall we?
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby drsmooth » Wed Jun 28, 2017 07:12:58

jerseyhoya wrote:Sounds like things are reaching a new level of disorder in Venezuela.

Socialism is the best.


Who would disagree that Venezuela basically encompasses every nation's experience with socialism?

I was under the impression that you possess a college education
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby slugsrbad » Wed Jun 28, 2017 07:19:20

Trump says he knows a lot about healthcare, so I'd love for him to have a press conference on the subject.
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby td11 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 07:30:41

drsmooth wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Sounds like things are reaching a new level of disorder in Venezuela.

Socialism is the best.


Who would disagree that Venezuela basically encompasses every nation's experience with socialism?

I was under the impression that you possess a college education

I mean really

Also Donald fucking Trump is our president in this capitalist heaven
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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Jun 28, 2017 08:27:34

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:I'm happy there are so many people who can go protest at congressional offices across the country. Idk how they all get off work and all that, but proud of them.


My 72 year old dad is retired and has been to at least 10 protests, he's made it his mission since Trump was elected

thats great. i want to protest with TCC's dad!

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby Werthless » Wed Jun 28, 2017 08:35:51

drsmooth wrote:
warzawa wrote:Curious what you guys think about these talking points


It's a cherry-picked mishmash of bullshit and lies. Who would have expected that?

example:

MYTH: The current Medicaid program is sustainable.

FACT: No government program can grow faster than the economy in perpetuity without eventually causing a crisis.

Senator, health treatment costs have risen "faster than the economy" for DECADES. They DRIVE increases in the cost of living. Health treatment as a share of GDP has risen for a long, long time, well before ACA. A good-sized share of that increase is not warranted by the quality of America's health that has accompanied it. Congress needs to take action to fix that. YOUR GOD-DAMNED MASSIVE TAX CUT FOR THE 0.1% DOESN'T FIX THAT. Let's talk about THAT, shall we?

His fact is a mathematical truism, and it's silly to argue against it. "In perpetuity" is a long time.

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby Bucky » Wed Jun 28, 2017 08:51:44

what's silly is him using it as evidence to support the legislation.

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby Bucky » Wed Jun 28, 2017 08:53:06

THE EARTH WILL BE GONE IN 5 BILLIONS YEARS WHY BOTHER WITH HEALTHCARE

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby JUburton » Wed Jun 28, 2017 08:55:29

mmmm logical fallacies. a gop specialty lately. A is bad. B doesn't fix A. Therefore B has no merits.

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Re: The Last Thread was a Pre-Existing Condition - Politics

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Jun 28, 2017 09:01:50

Bucky wrote:THE EARTH WILL BE GONE IN 5 BILLIONS YEARS WHY BOTHER WITH HEALTHCARE


well if you're going to ignore climate change and we'll be in chaos in 100 years why not just live it up with your rich buddies?
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