James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Jun 02, 2017 09:28:45

her speech at the dnc was pretty terrible iirc

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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby pacino » Fri Jun 02, 2017 09:49:41

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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:24:19

TenuredVulture wrote:
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pacino wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:I get the whole collective action problem, but most of us could doba lot more to reduce our carbon footprint. Not just drive less or and generally living more like Bucky, but also eating less meat among other measures.

Most are not prepared to properly do the latter to the extent that it would actually make a big enough of a dent.

To an extent then, they aren't much better than the trumpies who also are unwilling to contemplate the substantial sacrifices it will take to even begin to make a dent. Your hamburger isnt really any better than some redneck's truck that blows coal.


Probably none of us are. A lot of these suburban families who believe in climate change are still driving big SUVs and heat their homes with oil. And eating meat? Good luck with that one in this country. The USA probably leads the world in unsustainability


Not only that, those suburban homes are growing larger and larger. And that's why Trump pulled out of the Paris accord. Almost no one actually wants to do the things that will need to be done if we're going to actually have an impact on climate change. There aren't any votes in asking for sacrifice.

I think environmental groups should be calling for "meatless fridays" or something like that. I obviously don't think we can make these changes all at once, but we certainly should be able to make small changes and gradually work up to reducing our impact on the environment.


I took a city bike tour in COpenhagen and the guide talked a lot about this kind of stuff. The harbor and waterways in Copenhagen were really polluted 20-30 years ago. For years, they couldn't do anything to change things. But then they started focusing not on the sacrifices that need to be made, but on the type of solutions that would make it actually better for people to switch. For example, they built bike paths all over the city, making it pleasant for people to ride their bikes to work. The improvements started to happen once they started programs that made it actually beneficial for the citizens to make the changes. The bike paths are used by most people and the waterways have been cleaned and are now crowded with boats and people sitting along the water socializing.

Just food for thought.
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby Woody » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:37:03

Denmark also has a 150% car purchase tax, so that helps incentivize riding a bike or train to work
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Jun 02, 2017 15:04:27

Holy crap. I knew some countries had high car taxes, but that is insane.

People in the US need cars because public transport sucks, but maybe we could make public transport a little better?

Or maybe they could make tofu taste better so less people eat meat.
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby Woody » Fri Jun 02, 2017 15:12:37

we could definitely make public transport better. but sprawl and sheer distance is a big issue. Denmark is 1/16 the size of Texas alone.

there was a great light rail line project into center city from the sprawling 422 suburbs planned, but then September 11 happened and that project went to shit
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby traderdave » Fri Jun 02, 2017 16:37:40

From CNN:

Former FBI Director James Comey will have the nation captivated next Thursday when he testifies before a Senate panel about the stunning accusations that President Donald Trump pressured him to end his investigation into his former national security adviser's ties to Russia. But can Trump stop Comey from talking?

White House counselor Kellyanne Conway said Friday that "the President will make that decision," raising the prospect that the White House may try to invoke executive privilege over Comey's conversations with Trump. White House press secretary Sean Spicer said later Friday the decision by the White House counsel's office hasn't been made yet."


Didn't somebody once say something about not needing immunity if you haven't done anything wrong? What about the need to gag a former employee to keep him from talking?

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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby Woody » Fri Jun 02, 2017 16:55:41

Oh he's definitely going to do it
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby drsmooth » Fri Jun 02, 2017 17:26:40

many R congresspersons campaigning for 2018 elections will find defending drumpfian asshattery 24/7 unpleasant and unsuccessful

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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby Captain Obvious » Fri Jun 02, 2017 18:28:51

traderdave wrote:From CNN:

Former FBI Director James Comey will have the nation captivated next Thursday when he testifies before a Senate panel about the stunning accusations that President Donald Trump pressured him to end his investigation into his former national security adviser's ties to Russia. But can Trump stop Comey from talking?

White House counselor Kellyanne Conway said Friday that "the President will make that decision," raising the prospect that the White House may try to invoke executive privilege over Comey's conversations with Trump. White House press secretary Sean Spicer said later Friday the decision by the White House counsel's office hasn't been made yet."


Didn't somebody once say something about not needing immunity if you haven't done anything wrong? What about the need to gag a former employee to keep him from talking?

The rest of that article makes it seem like a long shot for Trump.

Cliff notes version:

Trump has written letters about his conversations with Comey, as well as talked/tweeted about it publicly.

Executive privilege has its limits when such conversations/information is needed at a criminal trial or grand jury proceedings. Executive privilege is a non-starter when there is reason to believe government misconduct is involved.

If Comey were still FBI director, Trump could order him not to testify (still not a great chance of happening), but Trump fired him, so now he's simply a private citizen.

Good luck trying to invoke executive privilege Trump.

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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby Grotewold » Fri Jun 02, 2017 19:41:48

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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Jun 02, 2017 19:44:09

Certainly we're not suggesting that our beloved President is hypocritical, are we?
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby JFLNYC » Sat Jun 03, 2017 16:30:01

No posts today. Resistance flagging.
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat Jun 03, 2017 16:49:44

If he invokes executive privilege he's basically admitting Comey is telling the truth. However that may be better than Comey actually testifying which will probably be the biggest story of the past year (and I'm guessing Comey has some really juicy stuff to share)

The only problem for trump is the executive privilige thing has. I merit here since trump has no control over his mouth or hands
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby slugsrbad » Sat Jun 03, 2017 18:38:10

Incident on London Bridge involving a speeding vehicle and a knife, fits recent MO of some ISIS attacks, but I haven't seen any claims yet.
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Jun 03, 2017 18:54:59

Apparently three different incidents across the city

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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby Captain Obvious » Sat Jun 03, 2017 19:40:14

Trump's got the solution. Just give him his travel ban and we're all safe.

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We need to be smart, vigilant and tough. We need the courts to give us back our rights. We need the Travel Ban as an extra level of safety!

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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Postby pacino » Sat Jun 03, 2017 19:40:54

What rights did the courts take away
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Unread postby pacino » Sat Jun 03, 2017 19:58:15

I hate him
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Re: James Comey and the Giant Impeachment (politics)

Unread postby CalvinBall » Sat Jun 03, 2017 19:58:43

Declared as terrorism

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