Bucky wrote:HERE I GO AGAIN

anybody have any good concise link about the paris accord so i can intelligently counter the suckers who believe the conman in chief??

Bucky wrote:thanks, that's a start. Particularly, what is the bellyaching about? Why is it "so unfair" to the U.S.? Is it simply that we have to decrease more than anyone except China, since we're that good at emitting??

TenuredVulture wrote:I get the whole collective action problem, but most of us could doba lot more to reduce our carbon footprint. Not just drive less or and generally living more like Bucky, but also eating less meat among other measures.

pacino wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:I get the whole collective action problem, but most of us could doba lot more to reduce our carbon footprint. Not just drive less or and generally living more like Bucky, but also eating less meat among other measures.

Most are not prepared to properly do the latter to the extent that it would actually make a big enough of a dent.

Bucky wrote:HERE I GO AGAIN

anybody have any good concise link about the paris accord so i can intelligently counter the suckers who believe the conman in chief??

swishnicholson wrote:I wish the whole covfefe thing would go away. I've been in the same boat where a misspelled tweet that can't be edited was out there haunting me. And empathizing with Donald Trump makes me more than a little sick inside.

pacino wrote:138k jobs in may. 4.3% unemployment

Pretty far below expectations

TenuredVulture wrote:

pacino wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:I get the whole collective action problem, but most of us could doba lot more to reduce our carbon footprint. Not just drive less or and generally living more like Bucky, but also eating less meat among other measures.

Most are not prepared to properly do the latter to the extent that it would actually make a big enough of a dent.

To an extent then, they aren't much better than the trumpies who also are unwilling to contemplate the substantial sacrifices it will take to even begin to make a dent. Your hamburger isnt really any better than some redneck's truck that blows coal.

The 2017 hurricane season started Thursday without anyone in charge at the two federal agencies most involved in dealing with hurricanes, National Public Radio notes.

Five months after Donald J. Trump was sworn in as president, no one has taken the reins at the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which is in charge of preparing for and then dealing with the aftermath of a hurricane. The last FEMA boss was a Florida man, W. Craig Fugate, who departed in January after seven years on the job. Fugate previously served as the head of the Florida Division of Emergency Management. Trump finally nominated someone at the end of April, but he has yet to be confirmed.

Trump meanwhile has made no move to appoint a new boss at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the agency in charge of the National Hurricane Center and the National Weather Service, which provide hurricane forecasts and hurricane warnings in advance of a storm.

Incidentally, NOAA Is predicting an above-average hurricane season this year. Trump's proposed budget has targeted both agencies for cuts.

Warszawa wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:

pacino wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:I get the whole collective action problem, but most of us could doba lot more to reduce our carbon footprint. Not just drive less or and generally living more like Bucky, but also eating less meat among other measures.

Most are not prepared to properly do the latter to the extent that it would actually make a big enough of a dent.

To an extent then, they aren't much better than the trumpies who also are unwilling to contemplate the substantial sacrifices it will take to even begin to make a dent. Your hamburger isnt really any better than some redneck's truck that blows coal.

Probably none of us are. A lot of these suburban families who believe in climate change are still driving big SUVs and heat their homes with oil. And eating meat? Good luck with that one in this country. The USA probably leads the world in unsustainability