Testifyin' like Flynn: It's Nunes of your business -politics

by **TenuredVulture** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 17:18:23

Monkeyboy wrote:
thephan wrote:Report - Russian State TV Says Trump Is More Dangerous Than Kim Jong-Un

Pushing back against Donald or creating a perception of separation?

A survey conducted by the state-run pollster VTsIOM released Monday found that 39 percent of Russians hold a negative opinion of Trump, versus only 7 percent in March

It's interesting. If Putin wants Trump to make some concessions in Ukraine or the energy market, having electorates that hate the other country's leader certainly makes it tougher. On the other hand, there's just way too much smoke for there not to have been some collusion. Maybe they both already got what they really wanted from the deal, Trump got to be prez and Putin got an american leader tearing the country apart from the inside. Or maybe that was the deal in the first place.

I think it's more that Putin either wanted to weaken a Hillary Presidency, or figured that Trump would be a lot easier to manipulate.

by **pacino** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 17:40:48

never assume nefariousness when simple incompetence or idiocy is the likelier answer. re: trump/russia the guy is a moron and, despite his protestations to the contrary, is pretty bad at hiring people. no one of substance in the Republican Party wanted to assign their futures to what they surely thought was a foolish freakshow, so he got the scum of the earth and a bunch of loyalists. it just so happens a few of those scum are apparently compromised.

and yeah, putin was definitely about weakening Clinton moreso than getting Trump elected, but once you see a chance you take it.

by **Monkeyboy** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 17:55:19

I think he has way too many connections of his own for him not to be at least somewhat aware. Despite protestations from the left, the guy isn't a complete idiot. He has no idea what he's dong as prez, but he's been involved in some shady business stuff and almost certainly money laundering. You don't pull that off for as long as he has if you're a complete fool. His mind is going though.

by **pacino** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 17:57:24

glad to hear i'm part of the left, though i may disagree about trump

by **Monkeyboy** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 18:00:26

he's completely out of his element right now. I also think he's a guy who has some early signs of dementia, like many people his age.

by **Monkeyboy** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 18:03:50

Totally waiting for this cyprus bank/deutsche bank stuff to blow up. Quigley just went to Cyprus to investigate. Lotta money coming out of russia through there.

by **Monkeyboy** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 18:17:26

Monkeyboy wrote:Totally waiting for this cyprus bank/deutsche bank stuff to blow up. Quigley just went to Cyprus to investigate. Lotta money coming out of russia through there.

I should have linked...

wilbur ross, trump's commerce secretary, was Vice Chairman of Bank of Cyprus from 2014-17 and then resigned to join Trump. Bank of Cyprus, along with Deutsche Bank, was recently accused of funneling Russian money into NYC. Deutsche Bank was Trump's go-to place for loans once american banks stopped giving him money. They had to pay almost 2/3 of a BILLION dollars in penalties. :shock:

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/31/investi ... aundering/

by **drsmooth** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 19:47:51

Ted Kennedy Jr, a fairly newly minted (2nd term) CT state senator, has kinda-sorta made clear he's not running for governor.

Why, gee, thanks, Senator - that'll save anyone the trouble of actually asking you to do so, since pretty much no one was going to

by **pacino** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 20:11:57

by **Youseff** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 21:55:57

Trump called Erdogan to congratulate him on killing democracy.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... atulations

Donald Trump called to congratulate Recep Tayyip Erdoğan hours after the Turkish president claimed a narrow victory in a contested referendum that will grant him sweeping new powers, according to the White House.

International observers monitoring the Turkish referendum concluded in a preliminary report on Monday that the campaign and vote took place in a political environment where the “fundamental freedoms essential to a genuinely democratic process were curtailed”.

Turkey vote curtailed fundamental freedoms, say European observers

The US president spoke on Monday with Erdoğan, whose triumph in the constitutional referendum escalated concern over his increasingly authoritarian grip on power.

Trump’s congratulatory message strikes a starkly different tone than the statement issued by the US state department on Monday, which urged Erdoğan to respect his citizens’ fundamental rights and noted the report’s findings of “irregularities on voting day and an uneven playing field during the difficult campaign period”.

the Trump base and most of the GOP base lean heavily fascist or at least are fascist fanaticizers.

by **The Savior** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 22:10:00

Would expect nothing less

by **etched Chaos** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 22:22:05

Probably asked for a few tips as well.

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 23:00:19

drsmooth wrote:Ted Kennedy Jr, a fairly newly minted (2nd term) CT state senator, has kinda-sorta made clear he's not running for governor.

Why, gee, thanks, Senator - that'll save anyone the trouble of actually asking you to do so, since pretty much no one was going to

Huh? Way less qualified people have run for public office.

by **drsmooth** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 23:23:38

CalvinBall wrote:
drsmooth wrote:Ted Kennedy Jr, a fairly newly minted (2nd term) CT state senator, has kinda-sorta made clear he's not running for governor.

Why, gee, thanks, Senator - that'll save anyone the trouble of actually asking you to do so, since pretty much no one was going to

Huh? Way less qualified people have run for public office.

it's complicated, Calvin. But among many other issues that one might have with a Mr. K candidacy here in the Nutmeg State, we just really don't need dynastacists right now. I feel it's good he realized it himself.

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 23:32:40

Don't think that's a word.

by **drsmooth** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 23:46:12

Tom Cotton, supposedly a smart guy, attempts to defend drumpf's stubborn stonewalling on his tax returns by trotting out the idiotic lie that he's under audit.

Why would he do that, when it is and has long been glaringly evident to every single breathing adult in the USA that that is total bullshit?

I mean, if he's smart and all?

It isn't good for him; it isn't good for drumpf; it isn't good for any constituents, whether they love him or they hate him.

So, why?

by **td11** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 23:46:18

drsmooth wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:
drsmooth wrote:Ted Kennedy Jr, a fairly newly minted (2nd term) CT state senator, has kinda-sorta made clear he's not running for governor.

Why, gee, thanks, Senator - that'll save anyone the trouble of actually asking you to do so, since pretty much no one was going to

Huh? Way less qualified people have run for public office.

it's complicated, Calvin. But among many other issues that one might have with a Mr. K candidacy here in the Nutmeg State, we just really don't need dynastacists right now. I feel it's good he realized it himself.

Completely agree. Keep seeing Chelsea Clinton being pushed and I cringe. Want all these families to take their money and please go away

by **drsmooth** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 23:52:30

CalvinBall wrote:Don't think that's a word.

{sigh}

oh geez, Calvin, ya got me. Good for you!

by **CalvinBall** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 23:53:48

People seem to be into Joe Kennedy though.

Maybe it's because he is younger and more attractive.

by **The Savior** » Tue Apr 18, 2017 06:29:10

Theresa May be like...I wanna be like Ergodan.

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