JUburton wrote:i know the joke is dead but imagine being that fat cirrhosis looking inbred mother fucker and thinking you're the master race

the theory DOES seem to have a few troubling internal contradictions

I love the loop the senator or Congressman I'm not sure which at this point declaring that he accept Trump request for the investigation. In the face of everything that this could mean, I'm hoping that his blindly just opens this can of worms for the world. What really happens when they dig in and they find something?

pacino wrote:the Trump WH officials are deranged, too

You have to love that half these guys are Neanderthals with Russian mob enforcer names like Boris.

WSJ Headline: Rapport Between Donald Trump, Barack Obama Crumbles

In other news, hey look, I have hands, who knew?

Monkeyboy wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Lamar! likes the House bill. Chair of the relevant committee in the Senate, so that's important.

It sure seems like they're just going to try to fucking pass this thing. Trump is getting engaged, Mitch has promised to bring up whatever the House passes. I would be more excited if I was convinced it was good policy. I don't know a whole hell of a lot about health care policy, but most of the people whom I outsource my thinking to on the issue have reacted negatively.

If they do succeed in just ramming this through I will marvel at and applaud the brazenness.

Why would you applaud the brazenness if it brings bad policy? Yeah, you won!! Now we'll all suffer for it. Party before country once again.

Rounding up all muslims and placing them in concentration camps would also be brazen. Let's do it! Let's applaud!!

Too many bad Americans in the GOP right now.

I spent yesterday questioning their strategy above and beyond the policy involved, and some posters in here went further than I did. I still don't see how this survives the attacks from every side of the GOP caucus and the discontent in the grassroots along with united Democratic opposition and opposition from a lot of major health care stakeholders. If they're able to get this through Congress I will give them a tip of the cap and acknowledge I was wrong.

Taking it a step further from JH, if this somehow move forward we should be in awe. Remember that Awe is an overwhelming feeling of reverence, admiration, FEAR, etc.

Who knew healthcare could be so complicated?

Ryan providing assurances that

a) CBO scoring will be available next week and
b) no bill will go to the floor before that's available

cans will be kicked

jerseyhoya wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Lamar! likes the House bill. Chair of the relevant committee in the Senate, so that's important.

It sure seems like they're just going to try to fucking pass this thing. Trump is getting engaged, Mitch has promised to bring up whatever the House passes. I would be more excited if I was convinced it was good policy. I don't know a whole hell of a lot about health care policy, but most of the people whom I outsource my thinking to on the issue have reacted negatively.

If they do succeed in just ramming this through I will marvel at and applaud the brazenness.

Why would you applaud the brazenness if it brings bad policy? Yeah, you won!! Now we'll all suffer for it. Party before country once again.

Rounding up all muslims and placing them in concentration camps would also be brazen. Let's do it! Let's applaud!!

Too many bad Americans in the GOP right now.

I spent yesterday questioning their strategy above and beyond the policy involved, and some posters in here went further than I did. I still don't see how this survives the attacks from every side of the GOP caucus and the discontent in the grassroots along with united Democratic opposition and opposition from a lot of major health care stakeholders. If they're able to get this through Congress I will give them a tip of the cap and acknowledge I was wrong.

and people will die because of it. Maybe tipping the cap or applauding isn't the appropriate response?

It doesn't really matter what you think though. I'm just disappointed that intelligent republicans aren't doing more to stop this craziness. Trump will continue to do what he's doing until people from the GOP stop him. He doesn't care what democrats think. He's reading Breitbart and watching Fox. He's a lost cause. But regular republicans like yourself could actually do something, something that might actually have an effect. If they don't, then they deserve to be listed with our nation's worst political incarnations.

pacino wrote:Steven Bannon is a HUGE HUGE HUGE racist

definitely the most depressing thing I've read today, but it fits into this idea I've had that one of the biggest schisms between the two parties at this point is one is ok with multi-culturalism, and the other is firmly against it.

Youseff wrote:

pacino wrote:Steven Bannon is a HUGE HUGE HUGE racist

definitely the most depressing thing I've read today, but it fits into this idea I've had that one of the biggest schisms between the two parties at this point is one is ok with multi-culturalism, and the other is firmly against it.

is "firm" crazy now? because taking anything from that novel as any kind of policy guidance is one thing: cray-fucking-zy

an aside: in the 60s, "camp" was an altogether different concept

drsmooth wrote:

Youseff wrote:

pacino wrote:Steven Bannon is a HUGE HUGE HUGE racist

definitely the most depressing thing I've read today, but it fits into this idea I've had that one of the biggest schisms between the two parties at this point is one is ok with multi-culturalism, and the other is firmly against it.

is "firm" crazy now? because taking anything from that novel as any kind of policy guidance is one thing: cray-fucking-zy

an aside: in the 60s, "camp" was an altogether different concept

it's certainly a crazy perspective, if you ask me, but I'd say it's not unusual at this point. all the racist cockroaches are scurrying out from under our collective refrigerators and they're everywhere. you see it manifested in blatant nazism, ironic video game nerds idolizing David Duke, to the slightly more benign morons from suburbia who are terrified to travel to Germany because they think their hag wife is going to get raped by an immigrant.

Monkeyboy wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Lamar! likes the House bill. Chair of the relevant committee in the Senate, so that's important.

It sure seems like they're just going to try to fucking pass this thing. Trump is getting engaged, Mitch has promised to bring up whatever the House passes. I would be more excited if I was convinced it was good policy. I don't know a whole hell of a lot about health care policy, but most of the people whom I outsource my thinking to on the issue have reacted negatively.

If they do succeed in just ramming this through I will marvel at and applaud the brazenness.

Why would you applaud the brazenness if it brings bad policy? Yeah, you won!! Now we'll all suffer for it. Party before country once again.

Rounding up all muslims and placing them in concentration camps would also be brazen. Let's do it! Let's applaud!!

Too many bad Americans in the GOP right now.

I spent yesterday questioning their strategy above and beyond the policy involved, and some posters in here went further than I did. I still don't see how this survives the attacks from every side of the GOP caucus and the discontent in the grassroots along with united Democratic opposition and opposition from a lot of major health care stakeholders. If they're able to get this through Congress I will give them a tip of the cap and acknowledge I was wrong.

and people will die because of it. Maybe tipping the cap or applauding isn't the appropriate response?

It doesn't really matter what you think though. I'm just disappointed that intelligent republicans aren't doing more to stop this craziness. Trump will continue to do what he's doing until people from the GOP stop him. He doesn't care what democrats think. He's reading Breitbart and watching Fox. He's a lost cause. But regular republicans like yourself could actually do something, something that might actually have an effect. If they don't, then they deserve to be listed with our nation's worst political incarnations.

Well, the Republican plan has almost nothing to do with Trump, other than inspiring him to use twitter to praise it. I doubt Trump cares even a little about what it might actually do. So, in this case, your complaint should be Trump isn't doing enough to stop the Republicans.

TenuredVulture wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Lamar! likes the House bill. Chair of the relevant committee in the Senate, so that's important.

It sure seems like they're just going to try to fucking pass this thing. Trump is getting engaged, Mitch has promised to bring up whatever the House passes. I would be more excited if I was convinced it was good policy. I don't know a whole hell of a lot about health care policy, but most of the people whom I outsource my thinking to on the issue have reacted negatively.

If they do succeed in just ramming this through I will marvel at and applaud the brazenness.

Why would you applaud the brazenness if it brings bad policy? Yeah, you won!! Now we'll all suffer for it. Party before country once again.

Rounding up all muslims and placing them in concentration camps would also be brazen. Let's do it! Let's applaud!!

Too many bad Americans in the GOP right now.

I spent yesterday questioning their strategy above and beyond the policy involved, and some posters in here went further than I did. I still don't see how this survives the attacks from every side of the GOP caucus and the discontent in the grassroots along with united Democratic opposition and opposition from a lot of major health care stakeholders. If they're able to get this through Congress I will give them a tip of the cap and acknowledge I was wrong.

and people will die because of it. Maybe tipping the cap or applauding isn't the appropriate response?

It doesn't really matter what you think though. I'm just disappointed that intelligent republicans aren't doing more to stop this craziness. Trump will continue to do what he's doing until people from the GOP stop him. He doesn't care what democrats think. He's reading Breitbart and watching Fox. He's a lost cause. But regular republicans like yourself could actually do something, something that might actually have an effect. If they don't, then they deserve to be listed with our nation's worst political incarnations.

Well, the Republican plan has almost nothing to do with Trump, other than inspiring him to use twitter to praise it. I doubt Trump cares even a little about what it might actually do. So, in this case, your complaint should be Trump isn't doing enough to stop the Republicans.

Like I said, Trump is a lost cause. Rank and file republicans, the ones who don't get all their opinions from Fox and Breitbart, are the ones who I'm most angry at. They know what's going, but they're willing to risk everything to rip off the poor and middle class. Decent mericans of all stripes should be doing what they can

listening to Sean Spicer expounding on health coverage. I just

I like the WH strategy of inviting the Cruzes in for dinner to talk ACA repeal strategy because Cruz is obviously a beloved American statesman and a unifying force in both the Senate and Congress generally. Make him the repeal czar, that's the ticket

Trump wants to discuss the JFK assassination.

I know I have been out-of-pocket for the last week (was away on business) but how did I miss that the new HC bill includes the following:

"This Act may be cited as the 'World’s Greatest Healthcare Plan of 2017'".

And we are supposed to take these people seriously?

I don't think that's the official one but still amazing

Can someone tell me that Bannon for caught with a portrait of Putin in his asshole or something today sucked.