slugsrbad wrote:

pacino wrote:the neoliberals over at 538 proclaim Perez a progressive who wants to focus on a 50 state strategy:

But Perez’s win deals an undeniable morale blow to the Sanders-supporting wing of the Democratic Party, which feels that the party’s loss in November was something of a referendum on the status quo. Nina Turner, a prominent Sanders-turned-Ellison surrogate, told The Washington Post’s Dave Weigel that if Ellison lost, “the future of the Democratic Party will walk away.”

The argument from the party’s Sanders wing was that Ellison was the best choice to put forth a message of progressivism that would reinvigorate the party’s base, implying that Perez was something of an establishment centrist. But Perez and Ellison laid out essentially identical visions for the party during the DNC race. Both called for a more decentralized organization that placed greater emphasis on the particular political climates and needs of each state, better candidate recruitment, and well-honed messages of economic populism that would speak to the party’s traditional base and beyond.

ymmv

I'm tired of a non-party member trying to direct the party. I understand that Sen. Sanders needed to run on the Democrat flag for POTUS, because he needed to use the beast as much as he could stomach. He lost and it's over. If he really wants to make a change, start with the I to a D. Either that, or give what your hardcore bros want, a new party.

thephan wrote:WRT ICE - My church instantly saw an over 1/3 no show rate for ESL classes over the last 2 weeks. Not to say that these people were deported, but they are afraid to go to a place where it is known immigrants are gathered. Fear of a drag net, or an identification campaign, etc.

thephan wrote:NSAdvisor HR says Radical Islam/Muslim tag is bad. Its bad for all the reasons that we know about it empowering the message of the enemy, and painting the US into a corner as bigot/racist/zelots, etc.

JFLNYC wrote:Less work, fewer projects, higher prices. How is this helping anyone?

JFLNYC wrote:The other day at the supermarket I ran into the young businessman who built our outdoor kitchen. He's about 26 y/o and is on the path to being a real American success story. He's one of the best in the business and there's a ton of work down here with all the new construction.

He was starting 4 new projects a week and could have done more if he'd wanted to. Like most contractors down here in southwest Florida he uses a lot of immigrant workers. Not for nothing, but his workers were the best craftsmen, most precise, considerate and reliable crew of any ethnicity I've ever engaged. Good people who just happen to have been born south of the border.

I asked him about business and he said he's had to slow down because he's having trouble finding qualified workers. Many of the guys he's used are afraid to even go out in public these days -- a traffic violation, random stops (of which there are many these days in the area), any infraction at all and they're gone.

Less work, fewer projects, higher prices. How is this helping anyone?

Hillary Clinton won the city by more than 2,000 votes — but Trump won Clinton County, which was one of more than 25 counties in eastern Iowa that flipped from voting for Barack Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016. That shift here and in other Midwestern states was largely driven by white working-class voters like Godat. Godat commutes more than 30 miles south to Bettendorf, where he gets paid a base wage of $34 per hour to help prepare aluminum used for airplanes and cars. There’s a shortage of trained electricians, and last year Godat said he worked 600 overtime hours, bringing his total pay to about $110,000. His wife provides in-home care for the elderly.

Bucky wrote:you're making that up

JUburton wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/these-iowans-voted-for-trump-many-of-them-are-already-disappointed/2017/02/26/18f86b86-fa8d-11e6-be05-1a3817ac21a5_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpiowa-719pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.68ee2773736d

lotta ECONOMIC ANXIETY going on with trump voters here.

Hillary Clinton won the city by more than 2,000 votes — but Trump won Clinton County, which was one of more than 25 counties in eastern Iowa that flipped from voting for Barack Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016. That shift here and in other Midwestern states was largely driven by white working-class voters like Godat. Godat commutes more than 30 miles south to Bettendorf, where he gets paid a base wage of $34 per hour to help prepare aluminum used for airplanes and cars. There’s a shortage of trained electricians, and last year Godat said he worked 600 overtime hours, bringing his total pay to about $110,000. His wife provides in-home care for the elderly.

“He’s doing what he said he was going to do, that’s the biggest thing,” said Tyler Schurbon, 23, who describes himself as a “progressive Republican” who falls asleep watching Fox News each night. “A lot of people get into the presidency, and they just completely forget what they talked about.”

Schurbon trims trees for power companies, a full-time union job that pays $60,000 per year and full benefits. He drives a nice pickup truck and bought a two-story farmhouse for $50,000 last year.

“That’s pretty good living for not having a college degree,” Schurbon said.

While he doesn’t like how politicized unions have become, he’s grateful for the wages they negotiated over the years. The Republican-run Iowa Legislature, empowered by Trump’s win, voted this month to dramatically scale back the collective bargaining rights of the state’s public workers — worrying members of private unions like Schurbon.

While others in the bar insist that Trump supports unions, Schurbon doesn’t think so: “Nope, he’s completely against them.”

“I voted for the Supreme Court. I didn’t want to vote for Trump,” said George, who is opposed to abortion. “With Trump, you just hold your nose.