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Postby thephan » Wed Feb 15, 2017 16:02:10

Some twitter twit about Trump...

He's a fighter. A lesser man woudl have caved to the pressure by now.


Its the fourth week FFS! I guess there were a whole number of greater men who made it through. Sheesh.
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Postby thephan » Wed Feb 15, 2017 16:04:38

Another loss for DjT. Stacking up like cords of wood these days. For a 'winner' and a 'really smart guy' he is sure on a losing streak because of dumb decisions.
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Postby Youseff » Wed Feb 15, 2017 16:06:19

now we just have to hope Trump gets disgusted with how slovenly Bannon always is and cans him too.
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Postby drsmooth » Wed Feb 15, 2017 16:08:12

Youseff wrote:now we just have to hope Trump gets disgusted with how slovenly Bannon always is and cans him too.


I want Rosie to try crashing the West WIng in her Bannon getup
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Postby drsmooth » Wed Feb 15, 2017 16:15:45

Puzder reporting is kind of interesting

CNN has it that Senate Rs are recommending his withdrawal b/c they don't have the votes; cesspool siphoners like Fox simply saying HE may withdraw

disconnect the dots
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Postby Stay_Disappointed » Wed Feb 15, 2017 16:25:26

mozartpc27 wrote:Puzder withdrawing is finally some good news.

As far as our commander-in-chief being a regular Benedict Arnold, I am going to adopt the win-at-all costs-and-to-hell-with-the-good-of-the-country political ethos of our day and hope this does not force Trump into a position where he needs to resign before the next election. I don't see how MY preferred party is benefitted by a Trump resignation, except at the 11th hour of his term. Anyone else (Pence, Ryan), would have a consistent, horrific ideology, and would be nearly certain to be more effective - perhaps devastatingly so.

So by all means, keep it in the news, enough to prevent Trump from actually doing anything for as long as humanly possible.


Unfortunately what he can't get done is only half of it - it's not very reassuring to know what foreign powers are capable of doing to us because of him
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Postby laf837 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 16:27:56

Warszawa wrote:
mozartpc27 wrote:Puzder withdrawing is finally some good news.

As far as our commander-in-chief being a regular Benedict Arnold, I am going to adopt the win-at-all costs-and-to-hell-with-the-good-of-the-country political ethos of our day and hope this does not force Trump into a position where he needs to resign before the next election. I don't see how MY preferred party is benefitted by a Trump resignation, except at the 11th hour of his term. Anyone else (Pence, Ryan), would have a consistent, horrific ideology, and would be nearly certain to be more effective - perhaps devastatingly so.

So by all means, keep it in the news, enough to prevent Trump from actually doing anything for as long as humanly possible.


Unfortunately what he can't get done is only half of it - it's not very reassuring to know what foreign powers are capable of doing to us because of him


This is very true. I am worried that other nations are going to run circles around this clown.
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Postby Soren » Wed Feb 15, 2017 16:29:14

no but seriously has KAC or Spicer opened their face holes yet today or have they been murdered for treason.
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Postby Stay_Disappointed » Wed Feb 15, 2017 16:32:23

Nine Lies: This is the Beginning of the End for Donald Trump

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/ ... trump.html

High treason FFS
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Postby TomatoPie » Wed Feb 15, 2017 16:44:13

@realDonaldJDrumpf
I have asked Andy Puzder to withdraw as Secretary of Labor, but he's definitely first in line to be Secretary of Labor Camps.
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Postby CFP » Wed Feb 15, 2017 16:51:28

Does Vegas have any O/Us on when tonight's big story breaks?

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Postby Squire » Wed Feb 15, 2017 16:53:37

I apologize if this has been discussed but in the context of an actual article of impeachment does the "high crime or misdemeanor" have to have been committed while serving in the office of the Presidency?

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Postby JUburton » Wed Feb 15, 2017 16:54:42

Squire wrote:I apologize if this has been discussed but in the context of an actual article of impeachment does the "high crime or misdemeanor" have to have been committed while serving in the office of the Presidency?
If it's not explicitly stated in the Constitution, I would assume not. I mean, imagine it comes out he murdered someone on Nov 5th. Dude would be impeached immediately.

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Postby Bucky » Wed Feb 15, 2017 16:56:02

but he still wouldn't lose any voters!!

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Postby drsmooth » Wed Feb 15, 2017 16:57:13

Warszawa wrote:Nine Lies: This is the Beginning of the End for Donald Trump

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/ ... trump.html


the William Henry Harrison countdown is a nice touch
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Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Wed Feb 15, 2017 16:58:27

JUburton wrote:
Squire wrote:I apologize if this has been discussed but in the context of an actual article of impeachment does the "high crime or misdemeanor" have to have been committed while serving in the office of the Presidency?
If it's not explicitly stated in the Constitution, I would assume not. I mean, imagine it comes out he murdered someone on Nov 5th. Dude would be impeached immediately.

Would he though?

I'm only half joking here. Say the victim was a Hispanic illegal immigrant. Or a black person with a history of drug convictions. What are the odds that the House would vote in favor of impeachment and not wait it out in either of those scenarios? Can you honestly say that it's better than 50% they'd impeach?

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Postby drsmooth » Wed Feb 15, 2017 17:00:12

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Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Feb 15, 2017 17:20:18

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
JUburton wrote:
Squire wrote:I apologize if this has been discussed but in the context of an actual article of impeachment does the "high crime or misdemeanor" have to have been committed while serving in the office of the Presidency?
If it's not explicitly stated in the Constitution, I would assume not. I mean, imagine it comes out he murdered someone on Nov 5th. Dude would be impeached immediately.

Would he though?

I'm only half joking here. Say the victim was a Hispanic illegal immigrant. Or a black person with a history of drug convictions. What are the odds that the House would vote in favor of impeachment and not wait it out in either of those scenarios? Can you honestly say that it's better than 50% they'd impeach?


Impeachment is best understood as a political process rather than a legal one--that is, the House can basically impeach the President for anything it wants.
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Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Feb 15, 2017 17:52:40

Crazy shit going down.

I'm not sure how I fee about Trump being impeached. I think Pence would likely do more damage because he'd get a huge window to prove himself and his agenda would knock us back to the 1930's. Of course, Pence is less likely to get us nuked, so there's that.
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Postby traderdave » Wed Feb 15, 2017 18:17:22

So the official story is how horribly the media treated Flynn and how the documents were illegally leaked. Funny how a leaking of documents that seemingly helps you win an election is a-ok but one that implicates your national security advisor in potential actual illegal activity is turned into victim blaming. I think this is what I will never understand about the non-knuckle dragging Trump supporters; I mean the supporters with half a brain in their head. They lap this shit up and then ask for seconds.

Put aside D or R for a second and listen to what Trump and his posse say on a daily basis. It is lie after lie, half-truth after half-truth, misdirection after misdirection. And whether or not something they say is a lie is not even a matter of opinion; the lies are so easily exposed. For example, KAC is on air at 4p saying that Flynn has the full confidence of the President and then 18 hours later he fired. Either she lied at 4p or she is not a part of the inner circle because nothing happened in those 18 hours to change the facts of the situation. No new information came to light during those 18 hours that would suddenly create a trust issue worthy of a flame thrower.

Flynn has admitted that he is a liar (he "inadvertently" gave Pence "incomplete information" is code for "I lied") but the story they want to push is how poorly Flynn was treated by the big, bad media!?!? It is like fucking three-card monte with these people. Don't look there, look over here.

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