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Postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat Feb 11, 2017 01:23:38

Pennsylvania Sen. Pat Toomey called efforts to block President Donald Trump’s cabinet picks a “disgrace” during an interview on Talk Radio 1210, WPHT today.

Toomey specifically referenced steps taken by Democrats to block Education Secretary Betsy DeVos and Attorney General Jeff Sessions.


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Postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat Feb 11, 2017 01:26:44

Some more from Toomey, who really is a big time douchebag


WASHINGTON, D.C. -- U.S. Senator Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) issued the following statement regarding the vote to confirm Dr. Tom Price as Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services:

"Dr. Price will be a terrific HHS Secretary and I am delighted to vote to confirm him.

"None of the prior 22 HHS secretaries has the breadth of experience in both medicine and policy as Dr. Tom Price, who has been a successful surgeon with more than 20 years of practice.

"Dr. Price has a unique, well-informed perspective on the strengths and weaknesses of the health care system. He has put forward thoughtful approaches to reform health care so patients and their doctors - not bureaucrats - are in charge of medical decisions. He has also worked tirelessly to strengthen the Medicare program on behalf of millions of senior citizens.

"The job of HHS secretary is critical to undoing the damage caused by Obamacare. Dr. Price understands that as we transition to a better health care system where Americans have more affordable choices in coverage, we must not pull the rug out from under anyone who is currently covered by Obamacare. Dr. Tom Price is the right person for this job."
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Postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat Feb 11, 2017 01:27:37

I wish McGinty wasn't the worse candidate in the history of the democratic party
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Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Feb 11, 2017 01:41:32

Toomey is great. Have been puzzled and amused at the reaction here toward him with DeVos. Whoa, politician who has advocated school choice throughout his career backed a DoE nom who is there because she backs school choice.

Never understood why anyone thought his vote might be in play on DeVos. And the idea that the vote was precipitated by donations rather than the fact that he's supported disrupting the education establishment his entire political career is especially good. I imagine Bob Casey's teacher union donations aren't seen quite as instrumentally on the DeVos vote by most.

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Postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat Feb 11, 2017 01:44:07

jerseyhoya wrote:Toomey is great. Have been puzzled and amused at the reaction here toward him with DeVos. Whoa, politician who has advocated school choice throughout his career backed a DoE nom who is there because she backs school choice.

Never understood why anyone thought his vote might be in play on DeVos. And the idea that the vote was precipitated by donations rather than the fact that he's supported disrupting the education establishment his entire political career is especially good. I imagine Bob Casey's teacher union donations aren't seen quite as instrumentally on the DeVos vote by most.


I don't care about her school choice stance - i care that she is a religious nut job
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Postby The Savior » Sat Feb 11, 2017 07:44:05

jerseyhoya wrote:Toomey is great. Have been puzzled and amused at the reaction here toward him with DeVos. Whoa, politician who has advocated school choice throughout his career backed a DoE nom who is there because she backs school choice.

Never understood why anyone thought his vote might be in play on DeVos. And the idea that the vote was precipitated by donations rather than the fact that he's supported disrupting the education establishment his entire political career is especially good. I imagine Bob Casey's teacher union donations aren't seen quite as instrumentally on the DeVos vote by most.


Well shit. I forgot that he doesn't represent his constituents. It's all about HOW HE FEELS on the matter. I'm sure he asked his constituents about this.
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Postby thephan » Sat Feb 11, 2017 08:07:46

CalvinBall wrote:Wonder how much longer Flynn and Spicer last. Best people!


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Postby thephan » Sat Feb 11, 2017 08:09:34

Good to see lotus getting littl see r&r in FL this weekend. 2 weekends in 3 weeks. That is getting expensive email to the tax payers.
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Postby pacino » Sat Feb 11, 2017 08:13:33

Warszawa wrote:I wish McGinty wasn't the worse candidate in the history of the democratic party

Terrible campaigner and politician but would've been a good senator. :(
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Postby The Savior » Sat Feb 11, 2017 08:32:11

thephan wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Wonder how much longer Flynn and Spicer last. Best people!


They will go post to post. Never admit a mistake. Rollover it like a tank.


Flynn is done. Under normal circumstances, he resigns and the story and investigation quietly fizzles out. But there's too much smoke on this one and the media is fully erect on under covering direct links between Trump and Russia. Yesterday was the beginning of the end for Flynn and possibly others.

If you notice, the WH is already turning on him. The narrative was "Flynn lied to Pence, Pence didn't lie to the American people during his Jan interview on CBS."

This is big. Trump is bought by Russia. We all know this. Intelligence agencies already substantiating large parts of the dossier. No mention yet of anything in there that's not true.
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Postby CalvinBall » Sat Feb 11, 2017 08:36:21

jerseyhoya wrote:Toomey is great. Have been puzzled and amused at the reaction here toward him with DeVos. Whoa, politician who has advocated school choice throughout his career backed a DoE nom who is there because she backs school choice.

Never understood why anyone thought his vote might be in play on DeVos. And the idea that the vote was precipitated by donations rather than the fact that he's supported disrupting the education establishment his entire political career is especially good. I imagine Bob Casey's teacher union donations aren't seen quite as instrumentally on the DeVos vote by most.



To be fair, Toomey has no spine and guiding principles, so there was a chance.

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Postby The Savior » Sat Feb 11, 2017 08:44:07

In an earlier interview with The Post, Flynn acknowledged that he had been paid through his speakers bureau to give a speech at the event and defended his attendance by saying he saw no distinction between RT and U.S. news channels, including CNN.
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Postby The Savior » Sat Feb 11, 2017 08:49:25

Have we ever discussed the forbidden internet network Flynn had while he was the chief at DIA? And how he celebrated being invited to the Russia GRU, same unit alleged to have hacked our election?
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Postby drsmooth » Sat Feb 11, 2017 09:21:14

I'm admiring everyone's resilience. Me, I'm still trying to figure out "Toomey is great".


"Great"?


last I looked, "great" was a word with a pretty generally accepted meaning


ice cream is great. Sex is great. George Washington was great. The Phillies have been great.

Pat Toomey is not in the company of these
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Postby thephan » Sat Feb 11, 2017 09:45:27

Flynn is a POS. He was not released from command because he was a good guy doing the right thing. He did things for expediency of his own measure without regard for the controls in place. It might have been a short term win which points to long term strategic failures. His tactical nature coupled with a healthy does of both complet faith in his own world view and the loose cannon approach to getting his agenda done is an intolerable mix. Perhaps only to quash some divisions between civilian and military differences was this not investigated further. Clearly his actions were as bad, and likely worse, then Hillary 's miassteps (and there were missteps). The old 'I'd go to jail if I did that' certainly applies to this scenario.

Maybe, if there is justice to be had, the investigation exposes a depth of problems that knock him down rank at minimum (Major? Captain? Butter bar?) in his retirement years, or perhaps discovers a breadth of problems that get him an extended vacation in Kansas.
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Postby JFLNYC » Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:39:10

thephan wrote:Good to see lotus getting littl see r&r in FL this weekend. 2 weekends in 3 weeks. That is getting expensive email to the tax payers.


All these Trumps are getting damned expensive.

Last month, taxpayers forked over nearly $100,000 to protect Eric Trump while he was on a business trip to Uruguay. And the Defense Department is looking to rent space in Trump Tower — which goes for as much as $1.5 million a year per floor — so they can bring the nuclear launch codes along when the president comes to visit his wife in New York.

The mere idea of Donald Trump and the nuclear codes is way more disturbing than the money. But still, critics claim that Melania Trump’s decision not to move into the White House is costing the country more in security than the annual budget for the National Endowment for the Arts.


Conservatives used to have a field day complaining about the high cost of moving the Obamas around. The future President Trump himself once tweeted: “The habitual vacationer, @BarackObama, is now in Hawaii. This vacation is costing taxpayers $4 million +++ while there is 20% unemployment.”

The unemployment rate was not, at the time, anywhere near 20 percent. And last weekend Trump happily ran up a federal bill of around $3 million for a trip to Mar-a-Lago where he watched the Super Bowl and dropped in on a Red Cross ball, which presumably brought his resort a hefty fee.

Yeah, it’s the profit-making end of the story that’s so irritating. When Eric Trump went to Uruguay, his mission was to promote Trump Tower Punta del Este. “We’re going to have an amazing company,” Eric told the local media, adding that his father was going to do “amazing things for the United States.” And that Dad would be “an incredible commander in chief.” The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, adjective-wise.


Those continuing financial interests around the world are a huge problem — you probably noticed that the immigration ban on Muslim-majority countries didn’t include the ones in which the president had hotels or condos or golf courses? And he’s never going to do anything to fix it. When Trump was calling for better ethics in Washington, he only wanted us to drain the other guys’ swamp.


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Postby pacino » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:17:36

Jason Chaffetz, like Pat Toomey and Donald Trump, thinks the protestors he saw were outside agitators .
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Postby td11 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:28:59

pacino wrote:Jason Chaffetz, like Pat Toomey and Donald Trump, thinks the protestors he saw were outside agitators .

Straight up contempt of their own constituents
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Postby The Nightman Cometh » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:43:45

Anyone ever think about if SK feels good about his Stein vote? Wish he was around for a weather report and some light hearted harassment.
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Postby pacino » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:45:40

He was in Washington and said he'd have voted clinton if he still lived in pa
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