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Postby pacino » Fri Feb 10, 2017 08:35:46

somewhere in dc tom daschle just punched a hole through a wall
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Postby pacino » Fri Feb 10, 2017 08:40:04

President Mr Trump denounced the START treaty in his call with Putin, after Donnie asked someone what it was:


New START gives both countries until February 2018 to reduce their deployed strategic nuclear warheads to no more than 1,550, the lowest level in decades. It also limits deployed land- and submarine-based missiles and nuclear-capable bombers.

During a debate in the 2016 presidential election, Trump said Russia had "outsmarted" the United States with the treaty, which he called "START-Up." He asserted incorrectly then that it had allowed Russia to continue to produce nuclear warheads while the United States could not.

I bet he asked Flynn
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Postby pacino » Fri Feb 10, 2017 08:45:44

cloture motion for Mnuchin had all Republicans vote for it and Manchin as the only Dem to vote for it. West Virginians enjoyed Mnuchin's foreclosure record. Monday's the confirmation vote.

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) offered glowing praise for Mnuchin, saying while they didn’t previously know each other that after spending hours with the longtime Goldman Sachs executive, he thinks he’s “brilliant.”

“I said, ‘You know Steven, you’re going to lose a lot of money by taking this job.’ He said ‘I don’t care.’ He said ‘I want to serve my country,'” the GOP Finance Committee chairman said. “I was refreshed ... to the point that I’m going to help him every way I can become the greatest Treasury secretary we’ve ever had.”

Orrin hatch is one weird dude
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Postby thephan » Fri Feb 10, 2017 08:53:56

Hatch has become even more of a partisan hack this go round.
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Postby pacino » Fri Feb 10, 2017 08:54:11

A lobbying firm working for Saudi Arabia paid for a room at Donald Trump’s Washington hotel after Inauguration Day, marking the first publicly known payment on behalf of a foreign government to a Trump property since he became president.


In other news, Assad endorsed the now on hold Muslim ban by saying that there are TERRORISTS in the refugees leaving his country. He even invoked 9/11/01! He's basically Rudy Giuliani but running a country. So Trump has a burgeoning alliance with Assad. So there's that.
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Postby thephan » Fri Feb 10, 2017 08:56:56

If Rubio were for real he would take some actual stands, not sneak on the back 9 type of shit. All talk, no action.

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Postby thephan » Fri Feb 10, 2017 09:01:50

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A lobbying firm working for Saudi Arabia paid for a room at Donald Trump’s Washington hotel after Inauguration Day, marking the first publicly known payment on behalf of a foreign government to a Trump property since he became president.


... and that country was not on the banned list you say...

Hey, the Saudis aren't ever going on that list or any list until the last dino has been pumped out of the ground in the region. Although they have problems, and they produce terrorist (OBL as a simple example), they also have been an allies in the region. Sure their motives have been largely self serving, but isn't that actually the whole game? Lets just leave it at 'its complicated'.
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Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Fri Feb 10, 2017 09:03:37

jerseyhoya wrote:He got 73% of the vote in November and sits in a district that Mitt Romney won by 59 points and Trump won by 24 over Clinton. It's also the only congressional district in America where Clinton came in 3rd - McMullin got 2nd. It's that conservative. He can sit there and engage angry constituents knowing he is going to get reelected by 30% in 2018 even if he gets a well funded challenge. He should be good unless we move to the much favored "whoever gets more phone calls wins" version of democracy.


Im no expert on Utah politics, but what if a valid challenger emerged in the primary instead? Eric Cantor comes to mind
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Postby thephan » Fri Feb 10, 2017 09:08:13

pacino wrote:President Mr Trump denounced the START treaty in his call with Putin, after Donnie asked someone what it was:


New START gives both countries until February 2018 to reduce their deployed strategic nuclear warheads to no more than 1,550, the lowest level in decades. It also limits deployed land- and submarine-based missiles and nuclear-capable bombers.

During a debate in the 2016 presidential election, Trump said Russia had "outsmarted" the United States with the treaty, which he called "START-Up." He asserted incorrectly then that it had allowed Russia to continue to produce nuclear warheads while the United States could not.

I bet he asked Flynn


How could you leave this out...

Trump then told Putin the treaty was one of several bad deals negotiated by the Obama administration, saying that New START favored Russia. Trump also talked about his own popularity, the sources said.
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Postby pacino » Fri Feb 10, 2017 09:46:39

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Postby thephan » Fri Feb 10, 2017 09:52:25

Chaffetztown hall the crowd was shouting "Do your job." They want him to get Trump to release his tax return. He's on the oversight committee and when he met with Trump, the pres said he wouldn't discuss oversight and proceeded to ask about the postal service. Colbert said in his monologue that it was so Trump would know how much postage to use when he sent Chaffetz balls back to him.
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Postby JFLNYC » Fri Feb 10, 2017 09:57:41

“The decision was unanimous. But that’s not counting all the judges who voted illegally.” — JIMMY KIMMEL, referring to the federal appellate court that rejected President Trump’s travel ban


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Postby pacino » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:01:36

Alabama governor Robert Bentley chose the state AG to be the next senator from Alabama, who was potentially going to investigate Bentley for corruption. This means the potential investigation into Gov Bentley's corruption will now be undertaken by someone chosen by the governor himself.

Amazing stuff.
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Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:25:01

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:He got 73% of the vote in November and sits in a district that Mitt Romney won by 59 points and Trump won by 24 over Clinton. It's also the only congressional district in America where Clinton came in 3rd - McMullin got 2nd. It's that conservative. He can sit there and engage angry constituents knowing he is going to get reelected by 30% in 2018 even if he gets a well funded challenge. He should be good unless we move to the much favored "whoever gets more phone calls wins" version of democracy.


Im no expert on Utah politics, but what if a valid challenger emerged in the primary instead? Eric Cantor comes to mind

Well, bratt was more Trump like than cantor. The best shot I think for unseating chaffetz, and it isn't much of one would be an independent or 3rd party candidate.

Butthats not the real takeaway here. If chaffetz's seat is threatened, it likely means a whole lot of other r incumbents would be in trouble.
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Postby drsmooth » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:25:18

jerseyhoya wrote:He should be good



yes, but, you see, he isn't
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Postby JUburton » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:30:14

the key is to win the house in 2018 so he doesnt get to be chair anymore

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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:17:34

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:He got 73% of the vote in November and sits in a district that Mitt Romney won by 59 points and Trump won by 24 over Clinton. It's also the only congressional district in America where Clinton came in 3rd - McMullin got 2nd. It's that conservative. He can sit there and engage angry constituents knowing he is going to get reelected by 30% in 2018 even if he gets a well funded challenge. He should be good unless we move to the much favored "whoever gets more phone calls wins" version of democracy.


Im no expert on Utah politics, but what if a valid challenger emerged in the primary instead? Eric Cantor comes to mind

There are probably a series of events that could happen in the next 12 months that could lead to him losing to some pro-Trump person in a primary. Utah has conventions though and GOP activist types there were probably the least pro-Trump in the country.

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Postby Youseff » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:22:28

jerseyhoya wrote:Michael Flynn is a Russian stooge and/or crazy person and a liar. In anything resembling a normal administration he would be resigning tomorrow.



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Postby drsmooth » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:24:46

jerseyhoya wrote:There are probably a series of events that could happen in the next 12 months that could lead to him losing to some pro-Trump person in a primary. Utah has conventions though and GOP activist types there were probably the least pro-Trump in the country.


wait, you're saying Chaffetz is not a drumpfian? Because he's at least playing one on teevee
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Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:31:08

TenuredVulture wrote:
The Crimson Cyclone wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:He got 73% of the vote in November and sits in a district that Mitt Romney won by 59 points and Trump won by 24 over Clinton. It's also the only congressional district in America where Clinton came in 3rd - McMullin got 2nd. It's that conservative. He can sit there and engage angry constituents knowing he is going to get reelected by 30% in 2018 even if he gets a well funded challenge. He should be good unless we move to the much favored "whoever gets more phone calls wins" version of democracy.


Im no expert on Utah politics, but what if a valid challenger emerged in the primary instead? Eric Cantor comes to mind

Well, bratt was more Trump like than cantor. The best shot I think for unseating chaffetz, and it isn't much of one would be an independent or 3rd party candidate.

Butthats not the real takeaway here. If chaffetz's seat is threatened, it likely means a whole lot of other r incumbents would be in trouble.


my point being is that many Utah/Mormon republicans don't like Trump. So a primary challenger would be the opposite type of what happened to Cantor- An establishment/traditional conservative type guy. The question being if he or she exists in the district to challenge him
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