Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby The Savior » Wed Feb 08, 2017 08:05:11

Jersey sure cherry picks his morality battles
On a scale of 1 to Chris Brown, how pissed is he?

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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby thephan » Wed Feb 08, 2017 08:34:35

The Rule 19 thing was pretty sad, but illustrative of how owned McConnell is. Sneaky good pulling his wife into the Trump run, and then the administration so that if he has any negative comment he is impugning his wife meaning he has to deal with her. His little walnuts are in a vice. Lets face it when senators call each other blasphemous things, often from the floor of the senate, nothing is ever done. Case in point when Ted Cruz called McConnell a liar on the Senate floor, Mitch just took it.

Washington Post article about Rule 19 including the bit about lying Ted
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby drsmooth » Wed Feb 08, 2017 08:35:27

traderdave wrote: To me, Warren was impugning a nominee for Attorney General.


really need help with this new definition of impugning. As I understand it, at the time McConnell pulled his prank, what she was doing is reading.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby Gimpy » Wed Feb 08, 2017 08:38:37

Monkeyboy wrote:I don't think I want anyone to die. It would be much more healthy for our democracy if they were just exposed for the horrible people they are. Then they could be…


… elected president

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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Feb 08, 2017 08:41:00

When you've got a President who thinks it's OK to call the Senate Minority Leader the "chief clown," it seems to me all bets are off.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby traderdave » Wed Feb 08, 2017 08:52:55

drsmooth wrote:
traderdave wrote: To me, Warren was impugning a nominee for Attorney General.


really need help with this new definition of impugning. As I understand it, at the time McConnell pulled his prank, what she was doing is reading.


Not sure if you were referring to my use of the word or McConnell's but I was simply representing his position. I believe Warren did nothing wrong; as you pointed out, she was not even using her own words. As a nominee for a cabinet post, Sessions is open to reasonable criticism, particularly when being faced with his own record. The fact that he is a Senator does not mean he should get to walk on rose petals, especially to the Attorney General's chair. If Senator's are not allowed to use facts and participate in open debate regarding the nominees before them (regardless of who they are or what position they currently hold), then what is the point of the confirmation process? Given the outcome of the process so far (i.e. Carson, DeVos), that is probably already a fair question.

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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby drsmooth » Wed Feb 08, 2017 09:01:58

traderdave wrote:
drsmooth wrote:
traderdave wrote: To me, Warren was impugning a nominee for Attorney General.


really need help with this new definition of impugning. As I understand it, at the time McConnell pulled his prank, what she was doing is reading.


Not sure if you were referring to my use of the word or McConnell's but I was simply representing his position.


Feels like you wanted a "not" in there after "Warren was", then, so your sentence would represent your view, rather than McConnell's, which I'm guessing you disagree with.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby pacino » Wed Feb 08, 2017 09:06:01

suicide bomber in Kabul killed 20 outside the Supreme Court in Afghanistan :(

Taliban; they've said that people that work for the judiciary are NOT considered civilians.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby thephan » Wed Feb 08, 2017 09:14:22

Not sure if there were bought up, so I will keep this short:

1. Iran mocks Trump by thanking him for finally exposing 'real America' (re: travel ban & Muslim hate)
2. Yemen wants to give permission for US ground attacks.
3. Mitch McConnell is an asshat (I just wanted to get that out one more time)
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby thephan » Wed Feb 08, 2017 09:15:22

pacino wrote:suicide bomber in Kabul killed 20 outside the Supreme Court in Afghanistan :(

Taliban; they've said that people that work for the judiciary are NOT considered civilians.


Well, there is your proof that the Ban works.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby Soren » Wed Feb 08, 2017 09:35:47

(a person without qualifications gets confirmed as sec of education despite massive protests)
(answering smugly) Well, does it matter that people protested?
Olivia Meadows, your "emotional poltergeist"

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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby drsmooth » Wed Feb 08, 2017 09:44:16

love how things like the Warren muzzling expose boneheads like Jon Cornyn. To be fair, practically anything that provokes Cornyn to public utterance exposes him as a bonehead
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby pacino » Wed Feb 08, 2017 09:54:27

diversity in the country:
While the top map includes Democratic-leaning counties around big cities, the Southern Black Belt and the Mexican border, the second captures many of the rural Midwestern counties that helped deliver Mr. Trump the election. A Wall Street Journal analysis found during the primaries that the most rapidly diversifying counties in a cluster of Midwestern states were more likely to vote for Mr. Trump.

In the general election, voters were more likely to shift to Mr. Trump in the counties with the strongest growth in the Hispanic and nonwhite populations since 2000, according to research from a coming book by Ryan Enos, a Harvard political scientist. It appears in survey data, Mr. Enos argues, that this shift in 2016 was driven by whites who had previously voted Democratic — and who don’t appear to have responded in the same way to rising diversity before Mr. Trump’s campaign.

“When I talk to people about their concerns about immigration, they often talk about language,” said Daniel Hopkins, a political scientist at the University of Pennsylvania.“They talk about being uncomfortable having to ‘press 1 for English,’ or seeing Spanish-language signs. They talk about the feeling of dispossession that comes from having lived for a long time in a community and seeing it change.”

That sense of lost identity and ownership echoes how white communities often reacted to desegregation, Mr. Hopkins said. It is not, however, abrupt demographic change alone that unnerves, his research has found, but that kind of change amplified by politics.

In the short run, diversity is difficult,” said Robert Putnam, a Harvard sociologist. He published a widely discussed paper in 2007 arguing that diversity causes groups to withdraw from one another, both from people who don’t look like us and — surprisingly — from those who do (people generally “pull in like a turtle,” he wrote). His data suggesting that diversity reduces trust and social capital was cited by opponents of affirmative action. But in his full argument, Mr. Putnam too insisted that the trouble eventually ebbs.

“In the long run, America is pretty good at coming to terms with that and moving past it,” he said. “But the long term is measured in terms of decades.”
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby Brantt » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:00:39

CalvinBall wrote:What a dumb move. No one would have read the letter or had known Warren read it. Instead Mitch made it a thing. Savvy stuff.


It actually is savvy stuff.

Doing anything possible to elevate Elizabeth Warren as the prime face of the Democratic party and opposition is a huge win for Republicans. You are kidding yourself if you don't think it was done intentionally. You think Hillary Clinton didn't play in middle America? Wait until you see the results with Elizabeth Warren. She is loved by her base and hated by the rest of the country. Her campaigning with Hillary really hurt Clinton IMO.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby thephan » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:13:34

Brantt wrote: You are kidding yourself if you don't think it was done intentionally.


Absolutely no one who can critically think is dumb enough to believe that it was anything other than intention. Planned, and likely orchestrated, as part of a larger strategy supporting a narrative of silencing critics.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby pacino » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:16:54

she has an overall favorable rating when polled. it's been pretty consistently +2 to 3 nationwide. she's been one of the more known senators for the past several years so she has a *relatively* low unknown compared to your average senator.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby Woody » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:17:21

You know, it's possible for both things to be true. This is politics, so it was clearly planned with an intention in mind. But it's also true that THE LADY HAD A POINT. If you're too racist to be a judge in the 80's, why the hell should you get to be attorney general in 2017?
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby JUburton » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:17:51

Brantt wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:What a dumb move. No one would have read the letter or had known Warren read it. Instead Mitch made it a thing. Savvy stuff.


It actually is savvy stuff.

Doing anything possible to elevate Elizabeth Warren as the prime face of the Democratic party and opposition is a huge win for Republicans. You are kidding yourself if you don't think it was done intentionally. You think Hillary Clinton didn't play in middle America? Wait until you see the results with Elizabeth Warren. She is loved by her base and hated by the rest of the country. Her campaigning with Hillary really hurt Clinton IMO.
On the list of things that hurt Hillary, Liz Warren is like #583.

It also doesn't matter because she doesn't want to be president or THE face of the democratic party.

McConnell is just a small petty motherfucker who wanted to shut a woman up.

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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby pacino » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:18:42

Woody wrote:You know, it's possible for both things to be true. This is politics, so it was clearly planned with an intention in mind. But it's also true that THE LADY HAD A POINT. If you're too racist to be a judge in the 80's, why the hell should you get to be attorney general in 2017?

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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby drsmooth » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:24:10

drumpf on tv now, in front of some law enforcement group, attempting to read his own EO, apparently intending to clarify what its intent is

as you can probably guess, brutal doesn't begin to describe it
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