Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Re: Gorsuch a Facist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby 06hawkalum » Wed Feb 01, 2017 00:41:01

Youseff wrote:
pacino wrote:Nights like tonight are when I really feel the Stein-mentum and want to overthrow the repiblicrats and demopublicans. Both sides are the exact same. Stein 2020!


The right is set to win literally every political battle between the left & right of the last 30 years, but at least the left has a bunch of sadistic socialists that will spend most of their waking energy #$!&@ in their backyard and destroying the credibility of any popular left leaning journalist or viable Dem candidate.


Not necessarily...

Would be shocking if the Dems don't retake the White House in 2021.

Kennedy is 80, Thomas is 68, Alito is 66, and Roberts is 62. Not everyone lives to life expectancy. If Ginsberg and Breyer can keep on breathing for another four years we will be OK, maybe better than OK.
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Re: Gorsuch a Facist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby swishnicholson » Wed Feb 01, 2017 00:43:45

wwry wrote:is jerz gonna get drunk on kristallnacht too?


Every time I think I want to dip back into this thread...

Trump nominated a originalist with a pro-life history for the Supreme court. No other plausible course of action was going to take place, and many, some of who are NOT in fact actual Nazis but still embrace this philosophy, will applaud.

Yeah, I don't understand how you get something as totally weird as the Hobby Lobby decision from originalism or any other valid philosophy, nor how you're dead set against the youth in Asia and pretty much okay with capital punishment all the time, so I'd rather we weren't in this boat. But tagging people with the Nazi epithet because they support a guy who favors social reform through legislation rather than the judiciary (which, if I'm not wrong, is the basis for jersey's support) is just, well, I'll let you pick the description. Go with heroic if you want, you freedom fighter you.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby wwry » Wed Feb 01, 2017 02:24:39

i didn't call him a nazi i wondered if he'd be drinking while the nazis performed kristallnacht.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby wwry » Wed Feb 01, 2017 02:27:39

like i imagine JH sweating over a bottle of whiskey in a dark room with one dim light hanging over a single desk.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby wwry » Wed Feb 01, 2017 02:35:42

i hope i didn't make jerseyhoya feel bad. i don't think hes a nazi but i do think steve bannon is.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Feb 01, 2017 06:10:45

If Reps ever do stand up to Trump, it will happen after they've gutted social security, medicare, etc. Then they can help impeach him, get Pence in there, and try to act all reasonable before the next election. It will be too late for most americans at that point, but they may be able to pull it off. Either way, they won't care and it will be worth it to them.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby The Savior » Wed Feb 01, 2017 07:04:58

The fact that the SC has become so political in structure over past decade or so is sad. Never intended to be that way. Thx dems and repubs.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby pacino » Wed Feb 01, 2017 07:25:20

currency war time with Germany! Sigh
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby thephan » Wed Feb 01, 2017 08:30:41

Gorsch book on euthanasia discussed. Given his bend on RvW there are no surprises.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby pacino » Wed Feb 01, 2017 08:38:53

the FOP and NAPO want to get rid of consent agreements. Obama DOJ and police departments agreed to 24 separate ones for out of control departments. Now they have their men in Trump and Sessions to undo all that work. To many Republicans the only good union is a police union.

another piece:
Sessions has spoken against consent decrees. In an introduction Sessions wrote for an Alabama Policy Institute report in 2008, the senator described consent decrees as dangerous. “One of the most dangerous, and rarely discussed, exercises of raw power is the issuance of expansive court decrees,” he wrote. “Consent decrees have a profound effect on our legal system as they constitute an end run around the democratic process.”

Legal experts say consent decrees already in place should be enforced under a Trump administration because they are court-approved and a federal judge determines if the terms of the agreement are met by the law enforcement agency.

Still, the new administration could take a lax approach in ensuring the agreements are met.

“If an agency thinks or knows that the Department of Justice isn’t very interested in enforcing its existing consent decrees, then it may not put the time or effort or resources into meeting its obligations as fast as it would if it believed that the Department of Justice was keeping a close eye on it,” said Seth Stoughton, an assistant law professor at the University of South Carolina.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby thephan » Wed Feb 01, 2017 08:56:01

I was looking at a map of the Reading Line and thought that nothing is ever going to make Catawissa, Muncy, or Jersey Shore (the one in the middle of the Pennsylvania mountains) relevant again, much less great. How could it? All those towns built on Rails, Iron, and Coal as part of the Reading's flawed strategy seem to be firmly waiting for a comeback to the time of my Great Grandparents? That would be a lot of you Great-Great Grandparents. What will it take for Eagles Mere to realize its been had?

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Re: Gorsuch a Facist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby Luzinski's Gut » Wed Feb 01, 2017 09:00:46

I've had the displeasure of working with this clown.

He's a pompous shithead.

Thinks he can solve the problem of radical Islam with a few minor policy tweaks.

Reductionist thinking personified.


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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Feb 01, 2017 09:03:27

thephan wrote:Gorsch book on euthanasia discussed. Given his bend on RvW there are no surprises.


“All human beings are intrinsically valuable,” he writes in the book, “and the intentional taking of human life by private persons is always wrong.”


Conservatives are always bullish on supporting each individual life at the cradle and at the grave; as for all the time in between, not so much.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Feb 01, 2017 09:08:51

thephan wrote:I was looking at a map of the Reading Line and thought that nothing is ever going to make Catawissa, Muncy, or Jersey Shore (the one in the middle of the Pennsylvania mountains) relevant again, much less great. How could it? All those towns built on Rails, Iron, and Coal as part of the Reading's flawed strategy seem to be firmly waiting for a comeback to the time of my Great Grandparents? That would be a lot of you Great-Great Grandparents. What will it take for Eagles Mere to realize its been had?

Reading Railroad System Map


When I was in college at Penn in the 70's I used to occasionally ride the Reading RR home to Pottsville. The train was down to one car and was the end of the line (literally).
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby Luzinski's Gut » Wed Feb 01, 2017 09:09:59

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ls/515109/

I generally - get that pun? - agree with the narrative here.

Someone asked me if Mattis would eat Bannon's soul yesterday - no, but Mattis will resign if it gets really out of hand, and he won't be shy about it.

Neither will Kelly. As I've said before, I am a much bigger fan of Kelly than Mattis.

If you are looking for some breaking mechanisms within this administration, here are the two guys you can point to who will have rock-solid moral/ethical lines.

One other comment - I really do try and stay as non-partisan as possible. Both sides of the political aisle are tainted and biased in many ways. What this means is that I can be as wrong as humanly possible, especially when I stray out of nat sec lanes. But I hope that I am humble enough that I can accept being wrong and understanding why I am wrong.
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby pacino » Wed Feb 01, 2017 09:10:21

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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby JUburton » Wed Feb 01, 2017 09:15:18

Best option is probably a normal fight, maybe filibuster for a bit and hope to God you don't get murdered in the 2018 midterms and if a seat opens between 2018 and 2020 to obstruct until then. But then McConnell will probably just go nuclear so whatever.

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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby pacino » Wed Feb 01, 2017 09:16:21

David Brat (the Republican that beat Eric Cantor) found a way around the tough questions he was facing at town halls. He's not holding 'em for a little bit until they can pass all the stuff his constituents were probably asking him about.

He's decided to only hold friendlys with conservative groups:

“Since Obamacare and these issues have come up, the women are in my grill no matter where I go,” Brat told an audience Saturday at a meeting of conservative groups at Hanover Tavern.

“They come up — ‘When is your next town hall?’ And believe me, it’s not to give positive input.”

he says they're paid to attend! PAID I SAY!
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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Feb 01, 2017 09:18:44

The Savior wrote:The fact that the SC has become so political in structure over past decade or so is sad. Never intended to be that way. Thx dems and repubs.

Over the past decade or so

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Re: Gorsuch a Fascist, Mr. Trump - Politics Threat

Postby pacino » Wed Feb 01, 2017 09:22:12

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