Yes, if what you mean by that is that everyone has access to healthcare when needed. The truly poor would have access thru the the welfare system (and that must be reworked so there are incentives to work, and thus get off the welfare rolls). Institutional, multigenerational welfare dependence is a disgrace to our nation. Unemployment is the root of the problem (after the breakdown of the family in America). The problem has only grown (greatly) in the last 8 years. We need new approaches.

jamiethekiller wrote:there is nothing that Trump can do that will ruin any republicans chances at re-election. The only thing that will ruin their chances is the (R) next to their name. So they might as well go whole hog with it and see what happens. Probably better to risk re-election on trumps side than not his side. The damage of electing trump is already done. Supporting him isn't going to cause some sudden uprise in the voting ranks.

CalvinBall wrote:emailed the older man who unfollowed asking if he thinks everyone should have health care in this country. he was upset with his high premium, which is understandable. he said he wanted it gone and back to the way it was.

he replied with this

Yes, if what you mean by that is that everyone has access to healthcare when needed. The truly poor would have access thru the the welfare system (and that must be reworked so there are incentives to work, and thus get off the welfare rolls). Institutional, multigenerational welfare dependence is a disgrace to our nation. Unemployment is the root of the problem (after the breakdown of the family in America). The problem has only grown (greatly) in the last 8 years. We need new approaches.

any good lectures on youtube regarding poverty and welfare? maybe a go to article? or just some help thoughtfully responding?

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:There was an article in the WaPo this weekend about a woman in Williamsport who went from being a diehard conservative to supporting Hillary and attending the DC march this weekend. Needless to say, she's pretty isolated from similar thinkers where she lives. What was really uplifting about the story was how she came to this decision on her own despite having a pretty tough life.

Soren, have her read the article. It might give her strength despite her coworkers' nonsense. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/shes-54-white-rural-and-a-lifelong-republican-why-is-she-protesting-donald-trump/2017/01/21/6457ac02-df41-11e6-918c-99ede3c8cafa_story.html

She took a seat near the front of the bus and watched Ashley, who was in charge of their bus, begin counting heads and making announcements. And then a woman with curly red hair and glasses appeared at the top of the stairs.

“I have some information about the League of Women Voters. We are starting a chapter in Lycoming County. I brought a few paper applications,” she said. “Does anyone want information about League of Women Voters?”

Barr, who had never signed up for anything like that before and had never heard of the League of Women Voters, watched as the woman stopped in front of her.

In that moment, Barr had yet to carry a protest sign miles from the bus to the Mall. She had yet to stand before the Trump International Hotel and, quietly at first, then louder, chant words of protest. She had yet to witness crowds bigger than any in her life, crowds that didn’t scare her nearly as much as she thought they would. And she had yet to realize that what she was most afraid of was returning to Williamsport and falling into a rut that this time she would not be able to pull herself out of.

At that moment on the bus, there was just the woman standing in front of her, holding information packets about the women’s voting group, asking, “Do you want one?”

There was a long pause.

“Sure,” Barr said. “I’ll take one.”

CalvinBall wrote:emailed the older man who unfollowed asking if he thinks everyone should have health care in this country. he was upset with his high premium, which is understandable. he said he wanted it gone and back to the way it was.

drsmooth wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:emailed the older man who unfollowed asking if he thinks everyone should have health care in this country. he was upset with his high premium, which is understandable. he said he wanted it gone and back to the way it was.

challenge him on this perceptual delusion, Calvin. Because he's one deluded #$!&@. "Back the way it was" was sucking for him, hard. He's merely too stupid to understand it. He's been hard-trolled by reactionary imbeciles. Insist he quantify his high premiums - and coverage - now VS his premiums - and coverage - when everything was so great for him. He can't, and/or won't, because that would cause him to choke on thee propaganda he's swallowed.

CalvinBall wrote:
any good lectures on youtube regarding poverty and welfare? maybe a go to article? or just some help thoughtfully responding?

pacino wrote:

drsmooth wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:emailed the older man who unfollowed asking if he thinks everyone should have health care in this country. he was upset with his high premium, which is understandable. he said he wanted it gone and back to the way it was.

challenge him on this perceptual delusion, Calvin. Because he's one deluded #$!&@. "Back the way it was" was sucking for him, hard. He's merely too stupid to understand it. He's been hard-trolled by reactionary imbeciles. Insist he quantify his high premiums - and coverage - now VS his premiums - and coverage - when everything was so great for him. He can't, and/or won't, because that would cause him to choke on thee propaganda he's swallowed.

calvin, don't say it this way

CalvinBall wrote:rubio a yes on tillerson.

drsmooth wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:emailed the older man who unfollowed asking if he thinks everyone should have health care in this country. he was upset with his high premium, which is understandable. he said he wanted it gone and back to the way it was.

Insist he quantify his high premiums - and coverage - now VS his premiums - and coverage - when everything was so great for him.

Ted Lieu ‏@tedlieu
Was charged $2.99 for coffee listed at $2.59. That's why I have trust issues. Oh, and the fact that @seanspicer at #WhiteHouse makes shit up

pacino wrote:it looks like it's the brainchild of Walter Jones, so it will probably not get out of committee. I could be wrong, i guess.

a good way to know if a bill is pretty bad is if Louie Gohmert and Steve King are co-sponsoring it

took a quick look and there's a lot of death tax this and obamacare that and IRS this and Israel that being introduced. i also noticed a bill introduced by Virginia Foxx via the Way and Means committee to agree to raise the debt ceiling. she, and most of the others co-sponsoring it, voted against raising the debt ceiling in 2011.

gonna be a long 2 years

CalvinBall wrote:

Ted Lieu ‏@tedlieu
Was charged $2.99 for coffee listed at $2.59. That's why I have trust issues. Oh, and the fact that @seanspicer at #WhiteHouse makes #$!&@ up

D-California

hehe

Warszawa wrote:Less than 10 years since the biggest economic meltdown in the last 100 years and somehow eliminating regulations appears to be a popular message