Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Thu Jan 19, 2017 22:13:48

drumpf referring to KAConway as "baby" - yeah he'll do swell
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Thu Jan 19, 2017 22:25:14

drsmooth wrote:drumpf referring to KAConway as "baby" - yeah he'll do swell

Here's more

https://mobile.twitter.com/liamstack/st ... 3512122368


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Trump to Jared Kushner, at pre-inaugural dinner: "If you can't produce peace in the Middle East, nobody can!"
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 19, 2017 22:46:36

what experience does Jared Kushner have at brokering peace agreements
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jan 19, 2017 23:50:03

Man this guy is so dumb is all I can think while watching him try and speak.

Last night with BO. RIP USA.

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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Fri Jan 20, 2017 07:51:32

pacino wrote:ho hum:

WASHINGTON
The FBI and five other law enforcement and intelligence agencies have collaborated for months in an investigation into Russian attempts to influence the November election, including whether money from the Kremlin covertly aided President-elect Donald Trump, two people familiar with the matter said.

The agencies involved in the inquiry are the FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency, the Justice Department, the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network and representatives of the director of national intelligence, the sources said.

The BBC reported that the FBI had obtained a warrant on Oct. 15 from the highly secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court allowing investigators access to bank records and other documents about potential payments and money transfers related to Russia. One of McClatchy’s sources confirmed the report.

they intercepted Russian communications
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby Grotewold » Fri Jan 20, 2017 07:54:02

CalvinBall wrote:Last night with BO. RIP USA.


Thought you meant the dog, whom I'd also put in the big chair before Trump

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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby JUburton » Fri Jan 20, 2017 08:10:09

My veneer of denial is cracking. How is this happening.

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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Fri Jan 20, 2017 08:20:10

Emails are bad, that's why.
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Fri Jan 20, 2017 08:26:57

Werthless wrote:
pacino wrote:
Werthless wrote:
pacino wrote:Ulysses S Grant, traitor to the nation, created the first couple and then the tyrannical reign of Teddy Roosevelt guaranteed we'd be forced to visit these national areas of interest for our own amusement. The freedom-loving Bundys know what's up.

Hey man, sometimes it's fun to turn off the sarcasm font!

states won't have the funds to maintain some of 'em properly and some of them go over multiple states. it's nice to have cool things, too. if they were created at the federal level, i think they should remain in federal control.

/serious

So there are richer states that are forced to maintain the land of poorer states, because that's the way it's always been? I dunno man. This is one of those privatization/nationalization topics where I've never been satisfied with an argument to nationalize a bunch of federal land and then tax people to pay to maintain it. We take it for granted now, of course, but if there were no federal lands, I don't think we would be advocating that the US take $XX billion dollars and buy a bunch of land to hold. We'd probably say that there are better things, like universal healthcare, to spend money on. We would be cutting these land purchases to pay for actual services that benefit people.

I mean, imagine if Putin decided he wanted to buy a bunch of land of land in Russia. Would we say, "Great, he's nationalizing the preservation of the earth," or "Hey, what an autocrat, buying a bunch of land as a monument to himself. I wonder which of his friends is a new billionaire after these purchases."


I think the conservative argument that the govt is buying land due to their own self-interest is strange. United States citizens own the land - we are represented by the government, which is actually able to make decisions not based solely on revenue. I wonder what this county would like like without TR - probably - Actually if you want to see look at the Columbia river gorge - beautiful place marred by highways, railroads and other development

Should the govt spend on other things instead? I don't think it's an either/or - but maybe we should spend less on defense? Universal healthcare will one day become a permanent reality in this country as will many other socialist programs - it is the way of the world and conservatives can only plug the dike for so long (as are high taxes which help support the citizenship as a whole)
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Fri Jan 20, 2017 08:33:14

multiple intel agencies deep into investigation of drumpf henchmen. drumpf with power to throttle those investigations, and obvious motive to do so. Plenty of info already gathered, just laying around in electronic files. Snowden might wind up with company.
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Fri Jan 20, 2017 08:33:52

Universal healthcare will one day become a permanent reality in this country as will many other socialist programs

I don't think this is a guarantee at all. We're about to actually go backwards on it and the party that advocates for it has no power on any level. A 2/3 step took 60 years and a rollback is going to take 1.
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Fri Jan 20, 2017 08:34:23

As soon as he is sworn in, President Mr Trump will be violating the terms of the lease for his DC Hotel.
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Fri Jan 20, 2017 08:54:02

Senegal announced Thursday that it had sent troops into Gambia to force outgoing President Yahya Jammeh to give up the office.



Trump has yet to pick anyone for the African affairs job
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Fri Jan 20, 2017 09:00:11

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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Fri Jan 20, 2017 09:03:35

this is going to go well:
During his election campaign, Mr Trump floated the idea of a 45% tariff on goods from China.
Mr Scaramucci, who will enter the White House on Friday as a senior adviser to the president, called the relationship with China "asymmetrical", and downplayed the nation's ability to exact revenge on the US.
"What are they going to do, [are] they going to move against our move for fairness?
"That's going to cost them way more than it is ever going to cost us, and I think they know that."

"We signed Nafta in 1993, and in the 24 years from then you have lost 70,000 factories, and you had every 24 months a reviewal process for Nafta that the US never did, we never went through the reviewal process, never made any changes to potentially create more of an equilibrium in the deal, then we would have an issue, and I think we do."
Mr Scaramucci also announced the sale of his hedge fund Skybridge Capital for $12bn (£9.6bn) while at the World Economic Forum.
He is selling a majority stake in the business, which he founded in 2005, to China's HNA Group and Ron Transatlantic as he moves "on to a new chapter of his career", he said in a statement.
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Fri Jan 20, 2017 09:04:49

just saw some kind of PAC ad urging viewers to urge their Senators to confirm Sessions. I'm in CT, doesn't feel like there's any chance of that. NY, MA? Don't think so there either. Hmmm....
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Fri Jan 20, 2017 09:06:35

pacino wrote:this is going to go well:
During his election campaign, Mr Trump floated the idea of a 45% tariff on goods from China.
Mr Scaramucci .... also announced the sale of his hedge fund Skybridge Capital for $12bn (£9.6bn) while at the World Economic Forum.
He is selling a majority stake in the business, which he founded in 2005, to China's HNA Group and Ron Transatlantic as he moves "on to a new chapter of his career", he said in a statement.


"reviewal process"?
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Fri Jan 20, 2017 09:11:56

it's a real term!
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Fri Jan 20, 2017 09:17:56

Rick Perry may end up being a goddamn ally in the Dept of Energy as he watches the department crumble around him due to budget cuts. He ended up sounding more competent and willing to work than most of the other nominees.
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby Slowhand » Fri Jan 20, 2017 09:34:11

Still holding out hope that right as he's taking the oath, Ashton Kutcher jumps outs and is all "Punk'd like it's 2003, bitches!" and everyone gives high fives as they bring out the real president.
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