Hail to the Thief: A Politics Thread

Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Jan 19, 2017 16:55:05

Youseff wrote:the options aren't universal healthcare or preserving public wildlife. what a wildly dishonest analogy. I, like many people, are perfectly fine with a federal government (staffed by people who think the government can actually serve the people) preserving parks. not everything that defines America has to be a revenue stream, despite what the GOP would love for you to believe.

But the national parks ARE a revenue stream. And the new rules would allow the feds to give land (i.e., a valuable commodity) to the states/localities/tribes for zero return... so that they can avoid other budgetary rules that would require a net positive financial impact.

Even the people who don't believe in federalized lands should be concerned by this move. The best-case perspective is that they're cooking the books... the worst-case perspective is that they're destroying our national parks.

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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Jan 19, 2017 17:03:49

td11 wrote:even if the NYT story was horseshit, what about this direct quote?

pacino wrote:
“I have learned a great deal about the important work being done every day by the outstanding men and women of the DOE,” Perry said in his opening statement at his Senate confirmation hearing this morning. “My past statements made over five years ago about abolishing the Department of Energy do not reflect my current thinking. In fact, after being briefed on so many of the vital functions of the Department of Energy, I regret recommending its elimination.”


seems like he's admitting it

Reads to me like a generic, necessary thing to say if you once called for eliminating a department you've been picked to run. You've got to make multiple leaps from there to get to him being unaware the department was in charge of our nuclear stockpiles.

His 2012 plan for eliminating the department called for the management to be transferred to DoD - "However, within the Department of Energy, the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) and other key nuclear programs must be preserved and re-located to the Department of Defense. Our nuclear technology and capability (both civilian and military) are essential to U.S. national security, and must be preserved. The Department of Defense is a natural location for our nuclear programs, protecting our vital national security interests, and preserves the structure that supports our nuclear power system." - No guarantee he read his own website's issue section, but I really don't think this just caught him by surprise.

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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Thu Jan 19, 2017 17:11:14

jerseyhoya wrote:You've got to make multiple leaps from there to get to him being unaware the department was in charge of our nuclear stockpiles


Based on his public performance, you've got to make multiple leaps to assume, without confirmation, the guy knows how to find his front door. The man has frequently demonstrated his limited intellectual capacity. He's got more going on than the PEOTUS, perhaps, but he's not a bright person.

It's like assuming Mnuchin would not shit in your mouth if he thought it would net him a nickel.
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Thu Jan 19, 2017 17:41:20

I liked John Voit speech. Something about God ordained and propaganda campaign against this great man. And that he will restore us to write the place. Acting at its finest.
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Thu Jan 19, 2017 17:49:08

fife & drum corps off - dressed in red, kinda weird - now blaring the Stones Let's Spend the Night Together followed by, naturally, You Can't Always Get What You Want
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 19, 2017 17:56:25

Trump wanted to have tanks at the inauguration. The military said no.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Thu Jan 19, 2017 17:57:18

Heart of Stone? That was weird.
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Thu Jan 19, 2017 17:58:15

ok, help me with this: PEOTUS's walk on music is Heart of Stone, which opens with the lines

There's been so many girls that I've known/I've made so many cry

and includes

I ain't got no love, I ain't the kind to meet

It's like he knows he's a minor league satan
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby etched Chaos » Thu Jan 19, 2017 18:09:55

The_donald on reddit just went nuclear, seems the reddit admin pissed them off and now they are endlessly reposting Trump portaits and upvoting them all to the moon. r/all is basically Trump portaits with the occasional other post.
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby Monkeyboy » Thu Jan 19, 2017 18:52:28

if the GOP was smart, they would do universal healthcare as trump suggested. Since when do they care about budgets? Do universal healthcare and they'll win over enough people to maybe win another round of elections where they can lock everything in. It's not like they can't rig a universal healthcare system to make tons of profits for rich people. They should just do it.
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Thu Jan 19, 2017 19:21:40

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reposting to confess I fell for Bucky's assertion that this shot was of a wax dummy rather than the real thing
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Thu Jan 19, 2017 19:24:45

kinda hard to tell from the tv shots, but looks like maybe 20k people there

I believe that'd be about 10% of drumpfco forecast
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Thu Jan 19, 2017 19:32:10

lindsay graham, on Greta's new show on the socialist network, responding to some gibbering chipmunk predicting drumpf will be able to "threaten" intransigent congresspeople , allows as to how "when you're at 40%, you're not gonna threaten a lot of people"

amen, brother
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 19, 2017 20:05:52

He promised to work so hard.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Thu Jan 19, 2017 20:29:10

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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby azrider » Thu Jan 19, 2017 20:37:45

td11 wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:clear this #$!&@ a build a water park.

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i'll say it and i'm not ashamed-- love 2 pay taxes to preserve things like this


there is a place and I hope that you and hopefully a few others here come with azrider and do that!

https://www.nationalparks.org/

I am lucky that I now live in an area with large swaths of land that are protected. Unfortunately there are those that take for granted the beauty or even choose to destroy it. There is balancing act that man must make. It's not about being right or wrong it's about trying to do what's best. As a regular visitor to many of our national parks, many have either been put under the stress of over commercialization, neglect or downright abuse. Your money here can help even things out and and neutralize these factors and create a balance.

Now back to your regular scheduled programming.

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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jan 19, 2017 21:17:10

Good post az

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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 19, 2017 21:45:03

Apparently votes matter when it comes to preserving national parks, too.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby drsmooth » Thu Jan 19, 2017 22:06:06

drumpf now yammering on at some dinner. this appalling dope's our president for awhile
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Re: The Final 48: A Politics Thread

Postby td11 » Thu Jan 19, 2017 22:07:36

drsmooth wrote:drumpf now yammering on at some dinner. this appalling dope's our president for awhile

I can't imagine how bad his speeches and public appearances are going to be. It's going to be a disgrace
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