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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby Houshphandzadeh » Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:48:29

JUburton wrote:OK maybe by 'usually' I meant if there's a critique it's usually the ending.

didn't mean to single you out, it's just gotten kinda crazy how often I hear it. I think it's partly true I guess, but his good overall books usually have good endings, imo

WheelsFellOff wrote:The It ending works in the context of the Dark Tower though.

might need to re-read it then, haven't touched it since before I read DT

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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby jerseyhoya » Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:16:57

I agree with Didn't I with regards to not really liking the ending of 11/22/63 as well as enjoying the book overall.

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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:51:59

Here's my analogy

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11/22/63 was much like LOST. I really enjoyed the build up with the island/time travel, but then it became about love and the ending fell flat.
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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby Didn't I? » Tue Mar 01, 2016 15:57:01

slugsrbad wrote:Here's my analogy

[Reveal] Spoiler:
11/22/63 was much like LOST. I really enjoyed the build up with the island/time travel, but then it became about love and the ending fell flat.


Good call. Had the same thought while watching the terrible mini series version of it. Time travel stories are hard to wrap up because logic often goes out the window.
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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby JUburton » Tue Mar 01, 2016 15:59:53

Didn't I? wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:Here's my analogy

[Reveal] Spoiler:
11/22/63 was much like LOST. I really enjoyed the build up with the island/time travel, but then it became about love and the ending fell flat.


Good call. Had the same thought while watching the terrible mini series version of it. Time travel stories are hard to wrap up because logic often goes out the window.
The book was always about Jake Epping the person and his experience in that reality like LOST was about Jack and Kate and Sawyer and Sayid etc. Now LOST built up the mythology and the island wayyyy more and thus had a little more payoff but there probably would never be an overall satisfactory ending to that mythos.

11/22/63 could really end one of two ways revolving around whether he did what he was sent to do.
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I can see disagreeing with what happened after he killed Oswald but I don't know if whether that's plausible or not is the point. King even asked historians what is the worst that could possibly happen if Kennedy lived and went with it. Essentially at the end of the book, nothing happened...which is why it's about Jake and Sadie and not the time travel.
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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby Grotewold » Tue Mar 01, 2016 16:02:36

Devil in the White City -- sounds like a biography of the president of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts, amirite -- is really good, and I'm no history buff by any means

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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby Bucky » Tue Mar 01, 2016 16:04:14

the ending is obdurate

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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Mar 01, 2016 16:21:56

Bucky wrote:the ending is obdurate


:lol:
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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby td11 » Thu Mar 03, 2016 22:53:52

Blew through Matthew fitzsimmons' "the short drop" a few days ago because it was free on Kindle. Bit cheesy but held my interest til the end
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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Fri Mar 11, 2016 14:55:36

Is it still a right of passage for a certain kind of person to read On the Road as a teenager? I definitely went through that phase, and while I didn't like Kerouac enough to read Dharma Bums or anything else, I liked and still think fondly of Howl and probably read more Burroughs than anyone should. (Though I never did read Junky, and probably won't ever do it.)

I thought this was interesting as far as it goes.

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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby drsmooth » Sun Mar 13, 2016 08:03:40

TenuredVulture wrote:Is it still a right of passage for a certain kind of person to read On the Road as a teenager? I definitely went through that phase, and while I didn't like Kerouac enough to read Dharma Bums or anything else, I liked and still think fondly of Howl and probably read more Burroughs than anyone should. (Though I never did read Junky, and probably won't ever do it.)

I thought this was interesting as far as it goes.

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My son read it in his mid-20s. Followed up with one of Corso's books, I forget which. That was about it.
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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby drsmooth » Sun Mar 13, 2016 08:07:16

Cast your vote for The Diagram Prize for Oddest Book Title of the Year 2015, after reading some of the peculiar/amusing winners from past years' contests
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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat Mar 19, 2016 20:20:10

My fave book series:

1. Necroscope - Brian Lumley
2. Hyperion/Endymion - Dan Simmons
3. Game of Thrones - GRR Martin
4. Dune (original series) - Frank Herbert
5. Ender's Game (original series) - Orson Scott Card
6. The Vampire Chronicles (books 1-4) - Anne Rice
7. Lord of the Rings - JRR Tolkien
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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby drsmooth » Tue Mar 22, 2016 07:59:23

Along comes a biography I'll wind up reading: The Whole Harmonium, being about poet/insurance guy Wallace Stevens.

In my life I've memorized 2 poems. One was written by Stevens

If Stevens isn't a model for all us scribbly interneters, I don't know what.
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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby JUburton » Tue Mar 22, 2016 08:05:59

Grotewold wrote:Devil in the White City -- sounds like a biography of the president of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts, amirite -- is really good, and I'm no history buff by any means
I may be weird but I ended up way more interested in the fair and how it came together than in Holmes.

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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby WheelsFellOff » Tue Mar 22, 2016 08:45:48

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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby Grotewold » Tue Mar 22, 2016 09:30:52

JUburton wrote:
Grotewold wrote:Devil in the White City -- sounds like a biography of the president of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts, amirite -- is really good, and I'm no history buff by any means
I may be weird but I ended up way more interested in the fair and how it came together than in Holmes.


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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby JUburton » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:08:07

Read Slade House the other week and now Billion Dollar Spy which is interesting but I probably could have done as well with a longform piece rather than a 350 page book.

Also who the hell is the market for a $300 kindle?

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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby Youseff » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:34:45

reading Think Fast & Slow by Daniel Kahneman. it's a pretty well known book about cognitive science, and the different "systems" we have for thinking. our intuitive/impulsive side as "System 1" and the more analytical side of "System 2." a lot of it is about how System 1 will take short cuts to quickly solve problems because we're inherently lazy, and how we use what they call heuristics to solve easier an easier, somewhat associated question when faced with a difficult question. it's quite hard to read big chunks at a time because it engages System 2 quite frequently, but I really like it so far.
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Re: ~Take a look, It's in a BOOK, Back She Goes~

Unread postby JUburton » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:36:37

Youseff wrote:reading Think Fast & Slow by Daniel Kahneman. it's a pretty well known book about cognitive science, and the different "systems" we have for thinking. our intuitive/impulsive side as "System 1" and the more analytical side of "System 2." a lot of it is about how System 1 will take short cuts to quickly solve problems because we're inherently lazy, and how we use what they call heuristics to solve easier an easier, somewhat associated question when faced with a difficult question. it's quite hard to read big chunks at a time because it engages System 2 quite frequently, but I really like it so far.
I liked it but holy hell did it take me forever.

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