Roy Halladay

by **jerseyhoya** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 18:52:32

Not a ton of smugness after the intoxicating line. Too bad.

He stuck with the baseball decision story. I'm convinced he was told they weren't going to be going past the budget he was given, and he thought it was best to trade Lee and get prospects rather than getting nothing for Blanton. Time will tell on the decision.

by **joe table** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 18:52:53

I sort of want to see them start over with Aumont as a starter in lowball and try to get him so his labra (labrii?) won't simultaneously explode due to poor mechanics. Can always switch him back and have him caveman it out of the pen after that

by **jerseyhoya** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 18:55:43

ek wrote:montgomery will be on 950 at 6pm

When I was out before Missanelli said he was going to ask Monty if the owners would have been in the red if they pushed payroll to $150 mil

by **philliesphhan** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 19:08:29

The explanation he gave makes perfect sense really. If it was a budget issue, they could have easily just unloaded Blanton somewhere for whatever they could get. They didn't want to clean house of all their prospects for one super year of Halladay-Lee. I personally would have been too tempted to do that, but it would have been stupid to do if you want to be GM past next year.

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 19:12:41

ek wrote:Monty says they are already in the red!

Giles/Montgomery, speaking for the owners, always maintain that they (at best) break even in any given year, and often lose up to $20M in a year. They've been claiming this for years.

I'm sure it's an accounting trick.

I remember when Norman Braman owned the Eagles, he claimed (probably honestly, in the strictest sense), that the Eagles corporation either only broke even or even lost money. Of course, he also paid himself an annual salary of like $6M, IIRC, as the owner.

Even if the Phillies owners only take dividends on the value of the asset since they've purchased it, they've made a TON of money.

by **The Savior** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 19:16:34

They may be "losing" money each year in terms of their expenses being bigger than their cash receipts. But the unrealized appreciation of their investment is where it's all at along with the distributions they all invariably take on a year-to-year basis.

That franchise is appreciating in value every year and its not even funny. Their brand, for example, has exploded.

by **FTN** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 19:20:02

The somewhat sad thing is, had they spent an extra $2.5M in the draft this past summer on Susac and Stewart, they'd have already injected replacements in the system for Taylor and D'Arnaud, and they wouldn't have had to dump Cliff Lee.

by **Polar Bear Phan** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 19:41:48

philliesphhan wrote:The explanation he gave makes perfect sense really. If it was a budget issue, they could have easily just unloaded Blanton somewhere for whatever they could get. They didn't want to clean house of all their prospects for one super year of Halladay-Lee. I personally would have been too tempted to do that, but it would have been stupid to do if you want to be GM past next year.

I agree with the reasoning. If they wanted to go "all-in," the time to do it would've been in July when they would've had two pennant chases before the contracts expired--not one.

by **kimbatiste** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 19:44:10

Is the full press conference available online anywhere? BigEd? Big F'n Ed?

by **Stay_Disappointed** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 19:46:08

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 19:46:48

kimbatiste wrote:Is the full press conference available online anywhere? BigEd? Big F'n Ed?

I can't find it, either.

by **uncle milt** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 19:51:02

roy halladay is a phillies. that makes me so happy.

by **Polar Bear Phan** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 20:06:04

Our marketing department is quick:

Code: Select all: May 18 vs. Pittsburgh Pirates - 7:05 pm Toyota Roy Halladay Bobble Figurine All fans

It was Cliff Lee yesterday.

by **VFB** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 20:14:06

Polar Bear Phan wrote:Our marketing department is quick:

Code: Select all
May 18 vs. Pittsburgh Pirates - 7:05 pm Toyota Roy Halladay Bobble Figurine All fans

It was Cliff Lee yesterday.

by **Woody** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 21:18:34

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by **philliesphhan** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 21:37:10

I thought there were two option years, but evidently there's only one and man, does he have to do a lot to get it to vest automatically. I mean, it makes sense, it's a 20M option.

3 years/$60M (2011-13), plus 2014 option

* signed extension with Philadelphia 12/16/09
* 11:$20M, 12:$20M, 13:$20M, 14:$20M option
* 2014 option guaranteed with all of the following:
o 225 IP in 2013,
o 415 IP in 2012-13, and
o Halladay is not on disabled list at end of 2013 season

by **VFB** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 21:39:39

philliesphhan wrote:I thought there were two option years, but evidently there's only one and man, does he have to do a lot to get it to vest automatically. I mean, it makes sense, it's a 20M option.

3 years/$60M (2011-13), plus 2014 option

* signed extension with Philadelphia 12/16/09
* 11:$20M, 12:$20M, 13:$20M, 14:$20M option
* 2014 option guaranteed with all of the following:
o 225 IP in 2013,
o 415 IP in 2012-13, and
o Halladay is not on disabled list at end of 2013 season

WE GON VEST

by **philliesphhan** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 21:43:10

Also worth noting (unless this info was simply not released yet) is that it says nothing about a no trade clause.

by **lowcountry** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 21:44:41

Holy crap. If he took *that much* below market value and didn't get a no-trade ...

Damn.

by **lowcountry** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 21:46:11

And oh @#$@#$@#.

April 5 at Washington.

Who's with me?

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