Halladay IV: A New Hope

by **FTN** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:55:45

mozartpc27 wrote:
FTN wrote:Ive completely come to grips with the fact that we're not getting Halladay. If we do now, then great, but I really dont feel like its going to happen

Isn't this post like three days old (i.e., didn't you post the exact same sentiment three days ago)? I think the Roy Halladay-o-meter is at like 98% right now.

was it 3 days ago?

but i really am fine with it now. i underestimated ricciardi's douchiness.

by **stevelxa476** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:00:09

Ed Price of AOL FanHouse says Cincinnati has interest in Halladay.

:lol:

by **Squire** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:04:54

I really don't mind not getting him so long as the Dodgers or another NL team do not get him either.

SQUIRE

by **Barry Jive** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:06:09

They're getting him.

by **stevemc** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:08:22

stevelxa476 wrote:Ed Price of AOL FanHouse says Cincinnati has interest in Halladay.

and that Halladay won't waive his NTC to go there.

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:09:11

mozartpc27 wrote:
FTN wrote:Ive completely come to grips with the fact that we're not getting Halladay. If we do now, then great, but I really dont feel like its going to happen

Isn't this post like three days old (i.e., didn't you post the exact same sentiment three days ago)? I think the Roy Halladay-o-meter is at like 98% right now.

Perhaps floppy's getting the same gut feeling I've had... Ricciardi's just being a fucking tease that will only be enticed to deal Halladay if it's a deal of butt raping proportions that he can brag about later.

by **FTN** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:12:46

Lou (NJ)

What is the latest on Halladay to the Phillies? Is it going to happen? If not, will we get someone like Cliff Lee instead?
Jayson Stark (1:11 PM)

Maybe JP Ricciardi's gut is telling him Halladay won't get traded. But my gut tells me he's going to wind up in Philadelphia. I think both sides are too motivated to make this happen for it to fall apart. But as I wrote yesterday in Rumblings and Grumblings, the Phillies are trying to make this deal without including either J.A. Happ or Kyle Drabek. And I think that's impossible.

by **Woody** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:15:31

BUT I THOUGHT THEY HAVEN'T DISCUSSED ANY PLAYER NAMES YET!!!???

(Which begs the question, how the hell do you negotiate a trade without talking about specific names?)

by **Barry Jive** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:17:18

i cannot fathom why the fuck they'd keep JA Happ instead of trading him for Halladay

by **Barry Jive** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:18:02

ek wrote:he didn't answer the 2nd part of the question

he didn't answer any of it, unless "the latest" is "Jayson Stark's gut says he will be a Phillies"

by **FTN** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:19:42

Rob (LA)

Wouldn't it be smart for Philly to trade Happ? He never projected to be an outstanding starter and his market value is probably as high now as it ever will be.
Jayson Stark (1:16 PM)

Boy, I totally disagree. I quoted a scout in Rumblings and Grumblings who said he used to think Happ could be a poor man's Andy Pettitte - and "now he IS Andy Pettitte, except he's pitching better than the one in New York." If I'm running a team trying to win, I would never, ever trade away a key part of my big-league group. I know Drabek has more upside, but I'd rather trade the guy who has never done it than the guy who's 7-0 in the big leagues. And the truth is, I know scouts who don't think Drabek's ceiling is much higher than Happ;s.

lol

by **Barry Jive** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:20:38

i know a guy who thinks Drabek's a ####

by **Woody** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:24:38

The deification of JA Happ has been nothing short of breathtaking. I hope he wins rookie of the year and then we trade him for David Wright

by **Barry Jive** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:26:20

winning teams don't trade guys on the 25 man roster, jackass

by **karn** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:27:18

Not surprising that someone on the cack board wouldn't "get" why people don't want to trade an undefeated pitcher

by **FTN** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:28:36

what stark doesnt factor in is, if happ stays, who comes out of the rotation? moyer has compromising photos of amaro, so he stays in, and blanton has been awesome, so he stays in. pedro was just signed, hes staying in when he enters. theres no room for happ.

by **drsmooth** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:31:49

FTN wrote:
And the truth is, I know scouts who don't think Drabek's ceiling is much higher than Happ;s.

lol

"We said it, and we MEAN it!!"

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by **Barry Jive** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:37:06

has anyone even tried asking Halladay? i can't understand why he wouldn't just tell you if you asked.

by **Grotewold** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:43:17

Barry Jive wrote:has anyone even tried asking Halladay? i can't understand why he wouldn't just tell you if you asked.

He's been saying "I don't want to get into that" type stuff.

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 13:45:39

The PRESS may not know, but I can't imagine the PHILLIES don't know who was on that list. You don't think Pat Gillick has a source for that kind of stuff?

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