Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

by gr » Mon Aug 24, 2020 00:41:34

Jimmy is def the co-worker who is always talking loudly in the breakroom about what's wrong w the company while he's just trying to fix everything for everybody else, then needs to know if you're coming HH because there's no way you have other plans and he went to the trouble of sending out the email so stop being such a pansy about it. Also, he's only been here 2 months and has worked everywhere else in the industry so he has stories, you have no idea.

by **Squire** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 07:25:02

mcare89 wrote:I mean, if your peer at work sends you a text telling you "what not to do," how do you react? You don't even know what was said, and it's not like Jimmy Butler is the unquestioned expert on championship basketball that you just fall in line and do whatever he says. He and Simmons have the exact same amount of championship rings and finals appearances. Who's Jimmy Butler to "tell him what's what?"

People always lap up Butler's "I just want to win" schtick like it's unquestioned fact but always leaves out the part where it has to be done Jimmy's way.

This. And the fact that Jimmy's way has yielded zero anything (other than a cameo in Office Christmas Party)

by **Squire** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 07:25:04

mcare89 wrote:I mean, if your peer at work sends you a text telling you "what not to do," how do you react? You don't even know what was said, and it's not like Jimmy Butler is the unquestioned expert on championship basketball that you just fall in line and do whatever he says. He and Simmons have the exact same amount of championship rings and finals appearances. Who's Jimmy Butler to "tell him what's what?"

People always lap up Butler's "I just want to win" schtick like it's unquestioned fact but always leaves out the part where it has to be done Jimmy's way.

This. And the fact that Jimmy's way has yielded zero anything (other than a cameo in Office Christmas Party)

by **The Savior** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 07:30:13

Let’s use that “office example” and look at it from a lens that isn’t inherently critical of JB.

What if your boss was asking you to do things that were clearly incorrect. If you did them, you would be guilty by association through the lens of your boss’ boss. Your career is irrefutably harmed as is your teams. Instead of following down the wrong path, you decide to take the reigns and do what is actually right which in the end makes you, the team and your boss look good.

by **jamiethekiller** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 07:33:32

Jimmy's not a great basketball player and basically is living off his rep to be good(superstar calls for constistant foul shots). his defense is subpar and his offense outside of foul shooting is pretty mediocre, too.

i'd take JRich over Butler everyday of the week.

That said, i do believe in intangibles and jimmy brings those in spades. The lockeroom desperately needs a voice like his and if it isn't going to be a player it damn better well be the coach.

by **The Savior** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 07:49:08

jamiethekiller wrote:Jimmy's not a great basketball player and basically is living off his rep to be good(superstar calls for constistant foul shots). his defense is subpar and his offense outside of foul shooting is pretty mediocre, too.

i'd take JRich over Butler everyday of the week.

That said, i do believe in intangibles and jimmy brings those in spades. The lockeroom desperately needs a voice like his and if it isn't going to be a player it damn better well be the coach.

This is a wrong take

by **mtcal** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 08:03:33

I have like zero faith that this happens but Josh Harris should take a page out of Jeff Luries playbook and form a committee with advisors for the next coach and maybe GM for the Sixers. I'd include Billy King and Jim Lynam and perhaps Doug Collins to start. I'd consider getting input from Barkley, Croce, Pat Williams, and maybe even Iverson.

Remember that Jaworski was involved to an extent on Doug Pederson's hire.

by **The Savior** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 08:22:23

Simmons and Russillo seem to think Brand is in trouble, too. Would be a weird talking point if it wasn’t somewhat informed.

by **Eddie Jordan** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 08:22:58

I'm good with forming a committee of consultants but would prefer like the Zach Lowe's and a bevy of other smart industry people. The Sixers have been too bad for too long to involve their own people present/past.

In all likelihood they will probably bring in some consulting/hiring firms that companies use for exec hiring, but it'l just be a collection of 8 Jared Kushner's blowing smoke up ownerships asses.

by **thephan** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 08:24:29

Sixers 2020 Offseason Thread 1.0

One and done, just like the team (really frustrating to have the Celtics be Sixer kryptonite)

by **Grotewold** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 08:33:18

The Savior wrote:Simmons and Russillo seem to think Brand is in trouble, too. Would be a weird talking point if it wasn’t somewhat informed.

I doubt those guys know anything, but our organization is probably rudderless enough to be influenced by them and other national media of prominence

by **Gimpy** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 08:35:14

I agree that I want Billy King, Jim Lynam, and Doug Collins to have as much input on FO personnel as Brand does too.

Just do something obvious: try to get Morey and give him autonomy or go after Mike Zarren or something. Then just let them make decisions unfettered.

by **heyeaglefn** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 08:44:00

The Savior wrote:Simmons and Russillo seem to think Brand is in trouble, too. Would be a weird talking point if it wasn’t somewhat informed.

I mean they both are Celtics fans right? I doubt they have info that others don't.

by **The Savior** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 08:44:41

heyeaglefn wrote:
The Savior wrote:Simmons and Russillo seem to think Brand is in trouble, too. Would be a weird talking point if it wasn’t somewhat informed.

I mean they both are Celtics fans right? I doubt they have info that others don't.

Ok so others may know too. Got it.

by **MoBettle** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 08:45:56

Honestly thought the ask Billy King and Doug Collins idea was a joke.

by **JFLNYC** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 08:50:12

MoBettle wrote:Honestly thought the ask Billy King and Doug Collins idea was a joke.

+1

Let’s not forget Ed Stefanski.

by **MoBettle** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 08:53:22

All the Jimmy Butler is a dick that hasn’t really won anything takes are fine but again why trade for him when you know that going in unless you know you can handle it. Brand of all people as a former player should have insight on that.

by **Uncle Milty** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 08:54:03

How much authority did Brand really have in the roster decisions?

by **MoBettle** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 09:03:55

Shams says Brett is expected to be gone.

by **Grotewold** » Mon Aug 24, 2020 09:07:23

I liked Spike's thing about don't even let this front office get to fire Brown

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